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Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

#21
I'm not overloaded by popular culture, I just ignore most of it.

I know what I like, and the rest of it I just pay no attention to. Most popular culture I like is stuff from the last few decades of last century (showing my age I suppose), although occasionally something new comes along that appeals to me, but most new things I just ignore. If someone makes a reference to something I don't get, I'll Google the reference, read enough about it to get the point, then move on.

It isn't just popular culture. Humanity has multiple civilisations whose literatures go back thousands of years. There is just so much, whether books just published last week or ancient manuscripts, that nobody could ever possibly read it all, everybody has to pick out the parts that interest them and pass over the rest. I'm sure for many people there must be some hidden gems which they would have really enjoyed, except for the fact that they'll live their whole life and never once stumble upon them.

Ever since I read The Triumph of Time in high school, my favourite poet has always been Algernon Charles Swinburne. If I had lived in the second half of the 19th century, that would have been rather mainstream, hip and trendy even; in the 21st century, that makes me somewhat idiosyncratic. I don't care. (I also don't care what T. S. Eliot thought about Swinburne, in case anyone wants to bring that up.)

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

#22

For me culture means Michelangelo, Umberto Eco and Shakespeare, not House of Cards, Girls, Squid Game.

How is Shakespeare different or better than let’s say Girls or Squid Game? I think it is exactly what it was, Girls and Squid Game of its time.

Michelangelo is definitely out of this world. My favorite of his works is Pietà. Every time I looked at it for half an hour and just could not believe the realism. However, while Renaissance was great foe find arts, there is a lot of mediocrity. We are looking at the best, the rest is forgotten or only enjoyed by narrow group of connoisseurs.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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For me culture means Michelangelo, Umberto Eco and Shakespeare, not House of Cards, Girls, Squid Game.

I absolutely love the show Girls. I loved it so much, I was positively depressed when it ended and I emailed Lena Dunham multiple times to BEG her to revive it. I literally witnessed myself turning into a "fanboy" like I'm 16 again. Normally, if I love something I have reason to consider a "guilty pleasure", I will feel reluctant to publicly say I love it for fear of being judged. But in the case of Girls (and Titani…

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Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

#24
I don't know if there's too much - but what I think is good is that we're being exposed to much more culture from other, different, people. Whether it's an American listening to Grime music, or a Netflix viewer watching the Squid Game.

The world today lets us see cultures from across time and space much more than the past. Despite the large media companies and global platforms we aren't (or atleast the curious aren't) being fed what curators, journalists or advertisers feel are important.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

#25
I feel like this way but not just about entertainment, about everything in general. From one perspective, it's the success of capitalism, such a wide variety of offerings that there is sure to exist something for everyone, on the other hand, the more options you have, the more wrong options you need to avoid.

While having too many options isn't a massive issue for relatively small purchases, if I have a meh lunch or get a car wash that felt lacking, it's no biggie, but for larger purchases it's a bit paralyzing.

My headphones broke recently, and it took me a good week and a half to figure out what I wanted to buy. Search filters help, narrowing it a price range, a type (earbuds were what I ended up deciding on), then gaining access to further filters for things like battery life, but even after all of that, I'm still left with 100s of options, and many of the things I care about are qualitative and can't be filtered for, things like sound quality or ear comfort.

I've been wanting a new laptop for a while and reaching a decision on that seems like an absolutely daunting task. I agree with the article, there really is too much stuff. We have reviewers and aggregators to help alleviate that, we hope that they can curate the best stuff and we don't have to do the work ourselves. But then, there's too many reviewers and aggregators, so now I feel we need an aggregator for aggregators, a reviewer for reviewers, just to figure out who's being paid off by marketing teams, who's churning out surface level reviews for clicks, and who's actually worth listening to.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

#26

This reminds me of a Douglas Adams quote - although he was talking about technology, it seems appropriate here also :) “I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies: 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting an…

Douglas Adams has these gems of humor that comes from observing people. I think it’s not far from what does happen on some level.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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post #16

How one can misspell "entertainment" as "culture"? And the answer is clearly yes, the west consumes too much of it. The stress leads to distraction gluttony which leads to detachment from the real life which leads to stress as one can hardly navigate efficiently the social hive when his mental picture of it is taken from movies, shows, social media, etc.

How can one not include entertainment into culture? The word "culture" always had two meanings, a. what people in some collective do and b. "high culture", the stuff that is somehow supposed to reflect on human condition.

Entertainment is a subset of culture is it not?

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

#28

This reminds me of a Douglas Adams quote - although he was talking about technology, it seems appropriate here also :) “I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies: 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting an…

Related to this, I wonder how the average age of HN readership has changed over time.

My guess is it has shifted towards an older audience continually since the beginning. To that end what new things are "against the order of things" today.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

#29
The author winds up answering "no" to his own question. By thus rendering the entire point of his own article moot, he ironically reveals it to be exactly the type of pointless content that could lead one to question whether we do have too much of it.

I think ultimately it says something good about the tremendous wealth of our society that we can afford to support huge industries employing millions to do nothing but create trivial content. Before mass production people would make textiles at home as piecework, but it was grueling, boring work that paid a pittance. In the current age people can make quite a comfortable living creating online content at home, all while themselves consuming podcasts or peeking at TikTok clips.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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post #15

How one can misspell "entertainment" as "culture"? And the answer is clearly yes, the west consumes too much of it. The stress leads to distraction gluttony which leads to detachment from the real life which leads to stress as one can hardly navigate efficiently the social hive when his mental picture of it is taken from movies, shows, social media, etc.

The assertion that this is a "western" problem is both baseless and bizarre. https://www.statista.com/statistics/454772/number-social-med...

You can dissect the western claim and find problems with it, you always can with any generalization. Or you can find it accurate enough as westerners have the time and money to spend on entertainment compared to the rest of the world. Suggestion for nitpicking: tell me about Japan.
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