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Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing happened to the word "meme". It went from "unit of mimicry and replication" to "funny image macro on social media".

Are you referring to "entertainment" or "culture" ?

Your confusion seems to validate the author’s choice of ‘culture.’

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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For me culture means Michelangelo, Umberto Eco and Shakespeare, not House of Cards, Girls, Squid Game.

I absolutely love the show Girls. I loved it so much, I was positively depressed when it ended and I emailed Lena Dunham multiple times to BEG her to revive it. I literally witnessed myself turning into a "fanboy" like I'm 16 again. Normally, if I love something I have reason to consider a "guilty pleasure", I will feel reluctant to publicly say I love it for fear of being judged. But in the case of Girls (and Titanic), I have so often been moved to tears watching them, I have so often experienced the feeling (for me, the mark of great art, because it's the exact same feeling I feel when falling in love) of "death is no longer something to be afraid of because I've just caught a glimpse of something eternal, something that is bound to go on exist forever" - I have so often experienced such feelings watching them, that it's immediately clear to me that it'd be a silly betrayal of my entire being to try and pretend I don't love them. It would be no different from publicly joking about my mom's appearance just to fit in with the cool kids. Have you watched Girls? Yes, it's comedy. Yes it's often silly. But there is so, so much more to it. I'd go so far as to say that anyone who's watched Girls without becoming mesmerised by Lena Dunham by the end, has not really watched the show.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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This reminds me of a Douglas Adams quote - although he was talking about technology, it seems appropriate here also :)

“I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies: 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.”

― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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How one can misspell "entertainment" as "culture"? And the answer is clearly yes, the west consumes too much of it. The stress leads to distraction gluttony which leads to detachment from the real life which leads to stress as one can hardly navigate efficiently the social hive when his mental picture of it is taken from movies, shows, social media, etc.

The assertion that this is a "western" problem is both baseless and bizarre.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/454772/number-social-med...

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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How one can misspell "entertainment" as "culture"? And the answer is clearly yes, the west consumes too much of it. The stress leads to distraction gluttony which leads to detachment from the real life which leads to stress as one can hardly navigate efficiently the social hive when his mental picture of it is taken from movies, shows, social media, etc.

How can one not include entertainment into culture?

The word "culture" always had two meanings, a. what people in some collective do and b. "high culture", the stuff that is somehow supposed to reflect on human condition.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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There’s always been a lot of cultural stuff, but the key difference is the reduction of shared culture. 30-50 years ago if you wanted to read enough to contextualise The Waste Land[1] it would require a massive amount of ‘high culture’ from earlier centuries (and not just in English). Nowadays it would still be a huge amount of work though perhaps would not require trips to obscure German libraries. But 30-50 years ago, at least where I live, there were only 3-4 tv channels and a few more radio stations and shows could regularly pull tens of millions of viewers because there was nothing else to watch.

The lack of shared culture[2] today means people have less in common. It seems to me that having less in common with people makes them more distant and that there could be negative effects of that. I’ve certainly heard the argument that this reduced shared culture can be connected with the larger political divisions we (feel we) see today. But then 100 years ago when there was no mass shared culture like tv (or maybe there was?) we seemed to not have the same problems, so maybe there is something else at play.

[1] I pick this example because the whole thing is referencing many earlier works in one way or another, and it is a concrete thing rather than a field like ‘literature’.

[2] I suppose one might claim that tv is not culture because it is too pedestrian. I don’t really think that’s true, but if you just pick your favourite kind of high culture (eg theatre/ballet/classical music/poetry/literary fiction), there would likely have been some tv shows about it and, as there were only a few channels, lots of people outside the small set of people who deeply care about the thing would see those shows. It seems a little more egalitarian to me than what we have today, though I suppose if you are interested in those things it is now very easy and cheap to seek them out online.

Re: Overloaded: Is there simply too much culture?

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For me culture means Michelangelo, Umberto Eco and Shakespeare, not House of Cards, Girls, Squid Game.

I absolutely love the show Girls. I loved it so much, I was positively depressed when it ended and I emailed Lena Dunham multiple times to BEG her to revive it. I literally witnessed myself turning into a "fanboy" like I'm 16 again. Normally, if I love something I have reason to consider a "guilty pleasure", I will feel reluctant to publicly say I love it for fear of being judged. But in the case of Girls (and Titani…

Wow, haven't watched Girls but I'm sure I will after this comment. That's one of the most convincing reviews I've read.
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