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thats a tradeoff rather than an error. Making the phone bigger makes it fit differently but is an overall user experience preferred by many.
It's a terrible tradeoff. Every time I need a new phone I search for the smallest one I can find, and it's always bigger than my last phone.
Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
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Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
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The alternating all the way is a little insane but I can kind of understand because the old UI of heat or AC level knob is more intuitive . When I first get in a 40F car I don’t want to set it to 72 or whatever I just want max heat I can get as soon a possible while knowing my 72 is meaningless until the engine warms up. I don’t trust my car to use max heat until exactly 72 so I set it all the way to 80 then back off…
Doesn’t it work like your home thermostat for the 80s - heat is on until temperature sensor equals 73, then heat is off until temperature sensor less than 71
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
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I recently bought a new car. The old one had HVAC as you described. I don't use the new one any differently though. When it's really cold, I turn the heat all the way up until I'm comfortable. Then I turn it down and keep it there. This is exactly what I did in my old car too. In the new one I just don't use the "auto" feature, and haven't even tried because my established behavior still applies. Then only difference…
A button has opened car doors for 20 years, the keyless start nonsense offers no benefit. To turn the engine off with a key you have to press a button then find the key. When I’m driving I use the buttons on the steering wheel to change volume, station etc, more complex stuff needs a touch screen (CarPlay and maps), that’s fine because of the buttons on the wheel. My current car isn’t great - it has “lane assist” whi…
Hi, have you found any small car (I am thinking Toyota Corolla/Camry Honda Civic/Accord sedans) that comes with a full size spare? I drive a 2007 Toyota Camry that I bought in 2019 for about USD 5k. I know Jeep Wrangler and bigger vehicles sometimes have a full size spare but I'm not particularly fond of driving.
People on YouTube joke and say Toyota Camry is the perfect car for people who don't like driving but I can't think of a better description that fits me.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
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what do you drive?
Sold my manual for a Tesla. I drive my wife's manual Mazda when I want to enjoy the driving experience. Tesla does have good digital inputs, but very little about the car is analog, so I think I'm being consistent.
TLDR; They are removing touchscreens and design the cars to be driven without having to take your eyes off the road
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
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It's not the control system, it's the psychology. People just aren't willing to let the car control the temperature automatically. It drives me nuts, but that's the reality. I've yet to find a car made after about 1990 that doesn't handle it better than people do. Fiddling with the setpoint and/or the output just makes the system never settle. If you just leave it alone it gets the job done. But I'd say it's about 10…
I don't want the car to control the temperature automatically, because maintaining a set level is not a useful requirement. 20° C or any other number is not a rigid standard. It might feel cold or hot for any given moment in any given situation based on any amount of other environmental factors - outside temperature, clothing, sunlight, activity level while in the vehicle. Human perception is famously wildly variable…
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not the control system, it's the psychology. People just aren't willing to let the car control the temperature automatically. It drives me nuts, but that's the reality. I've yet to find a car made after about 1990 that doesn't handle it better than people do. Fiddling with the setpoint and/or the output just makes the system never settle. If you just leave it alone it gets the job done. But I'd say it's about 10…
I don't want the car to control the temperature automatically, because maintaining a set level is not a useful requirement. 20° C or any other number is not a rigid standard. It might feel cold or hot for any given moment in any given situation based on any amount of other environmental factors - outside temperature, clothing, sunlight, activity level while in the vehicle. Human perception is famously wildly variable…
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is why phones don't fit in peoples hands anymore. -Sent from my Iphone SE
thats a tradeoff rather than an error. Making the phone bigger makes it fit differently but is an overall user experience preferred by many.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#188Seriously. Without a dedicated on/off/volume knob for the soundsystem, the driving experience is diminished drastically, no matter how nice the car. And of course touch is way better than eyesight when you are supposed to be paying attention to the road. As someone else said, rough motor skills are safer and more appropriate in a car then controls needing fine motor skills.
I know this makes me a clueless annoying boring techie nerd :), but I still cannot properly fathom how this is a minority opinion. NOBODY in my non-techie group of friends or family cares. Not.even.remotely. I watch them struggle with their touch screens, I even listen to them rant, but when asked about it afterwards, it's fine. Just fine. Sexy. Sleek. Desirable. Why do I have to go and ruin everything? Honestly, eve…
Reminds me of Windows users.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not the control system, it's the psychology. People just aren't willing to let the car control the temperature automatically. It drives me nuts, but that's the reality. I've yet to find a car made after about 1990 that doesn't handle it better than people do. Fiddling with the setpoint and/or the output just makes the system never settle. If you just leave it alone it gets the job done. But I'd say it's about 10…
I don't want the car to control the temperature automatically, because maintaining a set level is not a useful requirement. 20° C or any other number is not a rigid standard. It might feel cold or hot for any given moment in any given situation based on any amount of other environmental factors - outside temperature, clothing, sunlight, activity level while in the vehicle. Human perception is famously wildly variable…
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#190I think Honda got this exactly right, at least in my 2018 car. There is a touchscreen that controls everything, but also physical knobs and buttons for the important stuff you'd want to control while keep your eyes on the road (radio volume, A/C, radio frequency, seat heaters, transmission gear, etc). If you want more detail and more options, you can go to the touchscreen, but if you just need the basics, you can do…
The 2018 Honda Pilot’s infotainment system was all touchscreen, they added a physical volume knob back in the 2019 model by demand.
We sold it back to the dealer less than a year later and got a new CR-V. I won’t say it was one of the most significant reasons but it certainly wasn’t _insignificant_.