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Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by ajross »

clouddrover wrote: post #14
ethagknight wrote: post #12

Article is devoid of any detail, technical or factual. No sources.

If you want some detail then here's a charging comparison of five EVs, including the Kia EV6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J46mG7I78Q

Indeed, Nyland is an absolute gold mine for this stuff. And indeed: 800V CCS cars tend to beat Teslas by 10-20% overall at time-on-the-charger. It's a good architecture, if not a huge deal (it also pays benefits with lighter and cheaper cabling at the charger). Swapping pack voltage is somewhat of a compatibility hassle, but I'd expect Tesla to try to follow this at some point in the coming years.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by hervature »

kabes wrote: post #46
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is how we know article has not been read Very early in the article > To clarify before we begin, advertising and marketing are not the same thing. According to the American Marketing Association marketing is “the process of identifying customer needs and determining how to best meet those needs.” In contrast, “advertising is the exercise of promoting a company and its products or services through paid channe…

How can you compare these absolute numbers? In 2015 BMW had 25 times more revenue than Tesla, and only spend 4 times as much as Tesla on marketing. So in relative terms Tesla is spending way more

I assume they are long $TSLA. In my experience, they pick whatever comparison is convenient for their narrative. Absolute in cases such as this and relative for growth numbers.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

jedberg wrote: post #61

This article talks about their new electric sedan and future SUV. And here I am still waiting on electric minivan. I regularly have to carry six people around, two of which are children and two of which are elderly, so I can't use anything that requires climbing to get into the seats (like every six seat SUV). Am I really that small of a market that no one wants to make an electric minivan, or is it a technologically…

I'm with you there. I tried all the currently available vans (Mercedes V Class, eVito, Opel Zafira Life (and related models)) and nothing so far I enjoy. Hoping the ID.Buzz is going to be a reasonable replacement for our current Diesel Minivan.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by dangoor »

jedberg wrote: post #68
dangoor wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not fully electric, but there is a plugin hybrid minivan: https://www.chrysler.com/pacifica/hybrid.html

I actually almost bought that instead of my current minivan, but the build quality on it wasn't very good and more importantly it's all electric range was tiny (like 30 miles).

Definitely depends on your driving patterns. I had a Prius Prime with a similar range and did the vast majority of my driving on electric (and quite appreciated the gas engine with 50mpg when I was driving longer distances).

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Post by dharmab »

jedberg wrote: post #61

This article talks about their new electric sedan and future SUV. And here I am still waiting on electric minivan. I regularly have to carry six people around, two of which are children and two of which are elderly, so I can't use anything that requires climbing to get into the seats (like every six seat SUV). Am I really that small of a market that no one wants to make an electric minivan, or is it a technologically…

It's a market issue- SUVs have a larger addressable market.

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Post by jedberg »

Rygian wrote: post #69
jedberg wrote: post #61

This article talks about their new electric sedan and future SUV. And here I am still waiting on electric minivan. I regularly have to carry six people around, two of which are children and two of which are elderly, so I can't use anything that requires climbing to get into the seats (like every six seat SUV). Am I really that small of a market that no one wants to make an electric minivan, or is it a technologically…

Sounds like a Tesla model X fits your needs thanks to the falcon wings.

We tried one of those. It’s a spaceship for the driver and a Corolla for the passengers. Super uncomfortable for everyone but the driver. My MIL who never gets carsick got carsick in it.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by dghughes »

jedberg wrote: post #61

This article talks about their new electric sedan and future SUV. And here I am still waiting on electric minivan. I regularly have to carry six people around, two of which are children and two of which are elderly, so I can't use anything that requires climbing to get into the seats (like every six seat SUV). Am I really that small of a market that no one wants to make an electric minivan, or is it a technologically…

The Canoo seven seat electric vehicle is supposed to be released soon.

https://www.canoo.com/

edit: It was originally supposed to go on sale "late 2021" now I see it's "late 2022".

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by Epa095 »

jedberg wrote: post #61

This article talks about their new electric sedan and future SUV. And here I am still waiting on electric minivan. I regularly have to carry six people around, two of which are children and two of which are elderly, so I can't use anything that requires climbing to get into the seats (like every six seat SUV). Am I really that small of a market that no one wants to make an electric minivan, or is it a technologically…

What about the Nissan e-nv200? It can come in different configurations, including a 7 seat one. A friend has it to log his family around. It does not have the greatest range, but decent enough.

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Post by newaccount74 »

jedberg wrote: post #61

This article talks about their new electric sedan and future SUV. And here I am still waiting on electric minivan. I regularly have to carry six people around, two of which are children and two of which are elderly, so I can't use anything that requires climbing to get into the seats (like every six seat SUV). Am I really that small of a market that no one wants to make an electric minivan, or is it a technologically…

Speaking from a European perspective, I think classic minivans are dead. There are just a handful of minivans left on the market, and I doubt any of them will be electrified.

People who used to buy minivans now have 3 options:

- if you don't need to transport more than 5 people, you can get an SUV. There are lots of electric options.

- if you want to transport 5-7 people and want a lot of cargo space, you can get what wikipedia calls a "leisure activity vehicle" (VW Caddy, Renault Kangoo, Mercedes Citan). A new electric Kangoo with longer range is coming, and there's the Mercedes EQT concept based on it which is as close to an electric minivan as you'll get.

- If you want an even bigger car that can transport up to 8 people there's the EQV from Mercedes.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

dangoor wrote: post #63
jedberg wrote: post #61

This article talks about their new electric sedan and future SUV. And here I am still waiting on electric minivan. I regularly have to carry six people around, two of which are children and two of which are elderly, so I can't use anything that requires climbing to get into the seats (like every six seat SUV). Am I really that small of a market that no one wants to make an electric minivan, or is it a technologically…

Not fully electric, but there is a plugin hybrid minivan: https://www.chrysler.com/pacifica/hybrid.html

In Europe you can buy the current gen VW Multivan as hybrid now since the Pacifica is not sold here.
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