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Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by pwdisswordfish9 »

zimbatm wrote: post #43
camelboy wrote: post #34

few days ago, i tried to purchase a domain on godaddy, I didn't buy it as I had to get approval from my manager so I left it in the cart and that time I was using my cellphone. Then after 3 days, I came back to godaddy through my PC and saw that the domain is now premium and they want amount close $3000 . I was kind of shocked. but then on my phone I noticed that item is still in my cart with the 20 dollar pricing, a…

I can't believe godaddy is still doing this. It should be illegal. In the future, use gandi.net or namecheap.com. They don't engage in such despicable practices.

It's hard toe believe people (professionals, at least) are still using GoDaddy. Their shenanigans are well-documented, so the only reason stories like these could keep showing up in places frequented by people who should know better would seem to be name recognition. GoDaddy is the McDonald's of domains. You shouldn't be surprised if you go to McDonald's and get McDonald's-tier service. Although on second thought, Jiffy Lube may be a more apt comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiffy_Lube#Controversy

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by redis_mlc »

reginold wrote: post #51
rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ENS is purely a vanity service, like any other NFT. ENS would not have this problem, however, you might as well write a name on a piece of paper and never show anyone. It is not the same thing. ENS will never be resolvable via the global DNS namespace. Its like a parallel DNS namespace. I don't believe that any blockchain NS will ever marry with the global name resolution namespace. Handshake and Namecoin are alterna…

Appreciate the perspective on this. When you say "ENS will never be resolvable via the global DNS namespace", is that a technical limitation or something else? I'm curious so learning about how it works (or doesn't!), sounds like you have a lot of experience.

> is that a technical limitation or something else?

Because it's a scam.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by forty »

rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #58
forty wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my case I actually own and control the domain (I'm in the whois and my website shows up in the browser)

No, you rented it from the registrar. Nobody owns domains, one rents them for the temporary control over NS records. The registrar can take it away at their prerogative.

You mean the registry. If you are going to be pedantic, you should at least be precise ;)

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by forty »

forty wrote: post #63
rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you rented it from the registrar. Nobody owns domains, one rents them for the temporary control over NS records. The registrar can take it away at their prerogative.

You mean the registry. If you are going to be pedantic, you should at least be precise ;)

(and I don't think renting is a much better term than owning when it comes to domain. I can sell the domains I registered, that's rarely the case for things you rent)

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by monkeydreams »

rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #59
swalsh wrote: post #14

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Domains should be NFT's

Many have tried (they dont need to be NFT's, they just need a record mapping of name->NS IPs). Namecoin tried this. Handshake is trying this. ENS is trying this. IMHO they will fail. You wont see decentralized name registration in the global DNS namespace. Too much abuse potential, too little flexibility with errors, trademarks, etc

> IMHO they will fail.

I agree with you there. The key problem is maintaining ownership of a valuable domain, not freeing domain ownership from ICANN or automating dispute mediation.

Putting domain ownership on a blockchain just makes it almost impossible to maintain ownership of the domain if someone steals your "crown jewel" certificates.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by OJFord »

forty wrote: post #64
forty wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the registry. If you are going to be pedantic, you should at least be precise ;)

(and I don't think renting is a much better term than owning when it comes to domain. I can sell the domains I registered, that's rarely the case for things you rent)

You lease it. (And yes, you can sell leases in physical analogues too.)

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by zhte415 »

pwdisswordfish9 wrote: post #61
zimbatm wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't believe godaddy is still doing this. It should be illegal. In the future, use gandi.net or namecheap.com. They don't engage in such despicable practices.

It's hard toe believe people (professionals, at least) are still using GoDaddy. Their shenanigans are well-documented, so the only reason stories like these could keep showing up in places frequented by people who should know better would seem to be name recognition. GoDaddy is the McDonald's of domains. You shouldn't be surprised if you go to McDonald's and get McDonald's-tier service. Although on second thought, Ji…

Is this not front running?

McDonalds don't change the prices on the menu when they see you walk through the door looking particularly hungry.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by duud »

walrus01 wrote: post #21

the entire existence of the .io registry and the people running it, presently making money from it are highly suspicious, it's supposed to be for the benefit and use of the people who lived in what's now called the "british indian ocean territory" in the general area of diego garcia. this is a place from which the natives were evicted by force. I somehow doubt they're getting any financial benefit from it. https://en…

Yet another reason to stick to .com

http://www.paulgraham.com/name.html

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by reginold »

rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #57
reginold wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Appreciate the perspective on this. When you say "ENS will never be resolvable via the global DNS namespace", is that a technical limitation or something else? I'm curious so learning about how it works (or doesn't!), sounds like you have a lot of experience.

There is no reason technical that ENS could not run root .eth servers and have these in the global DNS namespace. It would be a centralized service with decentralized records. I'm saying it wont happen because they wont let it. Its a closed club, and its a big deal when new TLDs get added. Johnny ethereum isn't allowed in.

Ah interesting hadn't realized it was a closed club. Heard it was some kind of delegate, DAO but that likely just means those with the money win right?

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Post by stevenicr »

camelboy wrote: post #34

few days ago, i tried to purchase a domain on godaddy, I didn't buy it as I had to get approval from my manager so I left it in the cart and that time I was using my cellphone. Then after 3 days, I came back to godaddy through my PC and saw that the domain is now premium and they want amount close $3000 . I was kind of shocked. but then on my phone I noticed that item is still in my cart with the 20 dollar pricing, a…

Saw the title of this post and thought about how since godaddy has bought out uniregistry, they essentially took a few domains I had bought via uniregistry (a few .top domains I think) and transferred them to a different registrar fairly recently -domains24? or something.

I did not believe it at first, (thought the emails about paying someone else for my domains were a phishing scam) but I guess it did happen.

I have many godaddy=evil stories, the fact they don't enable letsencrypt / easy free ssl on their hosting / cpanel servers - it just makes them really shitty netizens on top of all the other shady things they have pulled over the years.

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