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Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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When the Tesla scam finally folds, it could be the end of Silicon Valley. Also coupled with the potential sentence of Elizabeth Holmes

You realize that Tesla is moving their headquarters to Austin, is worth 1.1 Trillion dollars, outsells all of their competitors combined in certain categories, Silicon Valley is just a label given to a certain area and can't "end" and Theranos is already a failed company right?

What you are saying seems more like a line out of a comic book than something that has matches reality in any way.

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I have a 2017 Model X that I bought new. The EV part is great, its everything else that sucks. Since I've had it, I've taken it for service for the following: o Arrived w/o Tow pkg (Tesla "forgot" it, was installed via service center appt) o falcon wing doors improperly adjusted, leading to wind noise and water intrusion o Loud wind noise and fogging passenger side windows: Due to improperly installed "triangle" wind…

I sold my 2020 Model X because of the half shafts (wtf are those) issue. It’s a complete design flaw and it’ll never stop degrading and requiring a new repair. Even had that confirmed by the service center. Newest Model X design supposedly fixes that. Maybe Tesla will get sued over it idk. With the pandemic the prices for used Tesla’s is through the stratosphere and although I sold too early I drove the MX for 9 mont…

What modern cars don’t have half-shafts? You get wheels hanging in the air and no traction with full-shafts.

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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When the Tesla scam finally folds, it could be the end of Silicon Valley. Also coupled with the potential sentence of Elizabeth Holmes

You realize that Tesla is moving their headquarters to Austin, is worth 1.1 Trillion dollars, outsells all of their competitors combined in certain categories, Silicon Valley is just a label given to a certain area and can't "end" and Theranos is already a failed company right? What you are saying seems more like a line out of a comic book than something that has matches reality in any way.

> is worth 1.1 Trillion dollars

That's the reason why it's a systemic risk. When the financial value of something and the real value diverge so much...people rage will mount when inevitably the financial value collapses back to the real value.

People wanted Ballmer's head for keeping things together and allow the real value of Microsoft to catch up with the financial value which was so elevated at the height of the dot com bubble.

People have really strong emotions when it comes to their money, if they were raging at Ballmer because the MSFT stock stayed flat after a huge bubble (while all the other tech stock crashed and burned) , I can only imagine what will happen when Tesla implodes.

> certain area and can't "end"

The dream of Japan becoming a technological powerhouse essentially ended with the Japan stock market bust in the late 90s.

So yes, geographical areas characterized by irrational exhuberance can end, when things go south.

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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I am sorry but this is incredibly misleading. Just because there are a few cosmetic issues in manufacturing doesn't mean it is not a reliable vehicle. I own two, Model Y and Model 3, and they are the best and most reliable vehicles I have ever owned.

Your sample size is 2. Their sample size is 369,000.

I also have a model 3, and a number of coworkers with them. Nobody has reported any major issues. Panel gap, poor paint, maybe some initial delivery issues like chipped glass, but no major problems. They’re fantastic cars, which I’d happily buy again. If I had one complaint - give me a standard windshield wiper knob on a stock, not software (which surprisingly is getting better).

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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When the Tesla scam finally folds, it could be the end of Silicon Valley. Also coupled with the potential sentence of Elizabeth Holmes

Scam? Tesla is manufacturing and delivering vehicles.

The model Y is by all accounts the best vehicle they've made and so far doesn't have any of the problems seen with others.

FWIW ours arrived in perfect condition and hasn't needed service.

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When the Tesla scam finally folds, it could be the end of Silicon Valley. Also coupled with the potential sentence of Elizabeth Holmes

Scam? Tesla is manufacturing and delivering vehicles. The model Y is by all accounts the best vehicle they've made and so far doesn't have any of the problems seen with others. FWIW ours arrived in perfect condition and hasn't needed service.

> Scam? Tesla is manufacturing and delivering vehicles.

Enron sold products and services as well. Matter of fact they posted a record 100B revenues, back in the 90s which is even more impressive because even a billion was a lot of money back then.

Doesn't mean it wasn't a financial scam engineered by the CEO to enrich himself.

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sold my 2020 Model X because of the half shafts (wtf are those) issue. It’s a complete design flaw and it’ll never stop degrading and requiring a new repair. Even had that confirmed by the service center. Newest Model X design supposedly fixes that. Maybe Tesla will get sued over it idk. With the pandemic the prices for used Tesla’s is through the stratosphere and although I sold too early I drove the MX for 9 mont…

What modern cars don’t have half-shafts? You get wheels hanging in the air and no traction with full-shafts.

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest they aren't a critical component, just had no idea what they are/were. I'm more of a "does this thing turn on? Cool" kind of car guy.

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> For other EVs it’s a few hours at best. Absolutely not true. This is one of those things Tesla diehards keep repeating as if it was 2015 still. You have commercial super-chargers widely available already that can charge a car 80% in 20 minutes: https://youtu.be/ZgeZikh88Wc?t=776

These folks had issues charging their Porsche Taycan on their road trip in 2021. Also it looks like charging on a road trip looks like a Tour de Walmart for the most part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTieOdnDhX8

No worse than the Tour de Meijer I've been on with the Supercharging network lol.

At least Meijer has a small bourbon selection so I can try and find a bottle of Buffalo Trace from time to time.

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SUVs have not been around for 50 years …

Sure they have. Chevy Blazer and Ford Bronco came out in the late 60s.

Wow, you’re right! I had no idea. Thanks. 1965 Ford Bronco: https://images.app.goo.gl/P4seF3jQfQfs69oL9

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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You realize that Tesla is moving their headquarters to Austin, is worth 1.1 Trillion dollars, outsells all of their competitors combined in certain categories, Silicon Valley is just a label given to a certain area and can't "end" and Theranos is already a failed company right? What you are saying seems more like a line out of a comic book than something that has matches reality in any way.

> is worth 1.1 Trillion dollars That's the reason why it's a systemic risk. When the financial value of something and the real value diverge so much...people rage will mount when inevitably the financial value collapses back to the real value. People wanted Ballmer's head for keeping things together and allow the real value of Microsoft to catch up with the financial value which was so elevated at the height of the d…

You said it was a scam and now instead of actually explaining that hyperbolic statement you are ignoring it and now saying "system risk" and throwing in irrelevant nonsense.

Tesla isn't going anywhere whether you like them or not and they aren't even staying in silicon valley. Saying they are a scam is nonsense and saying silicon valley will "end" is nonsense.

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