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Anyone can make expensive cars in a tent factory with human robots. But Tesla comes with crypto hype, a Twitter-addicted founder, and fanboy cult membership. If Consumer Reports had considered those factors the ratings would have turned out different.
Interesting, going off the Consumers Report site, if Telsa only made the Model 3, then they'd be 11th on the list and just one point behind Mini. It just seems every other model will break apart in a stiff wind. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisf... (You have to click on 'Tesla' to see the breakdown)
Here's a fun fact about the Model 3: the interior design is so incompetent, you can destroy the window if you open a door "wrong." https://youtu.be/14ZYknJQ8F0?t=35 TLDR: the frameless window "tucks in" under the trim of the roof/roof pillar and car has to drop the window slightly before it releases the latch. In case of failure of any of the stuff necessary for that to happen (and there are a lot of things necessary…
This has been ~true of every frame-less window for decades; this isn't a new thing.
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Here's a fun fact about the Model 3: the interior design is so incompetent, you can destroy the window if you open a door "wrong." https://youtu.be/14ZYknJQ8F0?t=35 TLDR: the frameless window "tucks in" under the trim of the roof/roof pillar and car has to drop the window slightly before it releases the latch. In case of failure of any of the stuff necessary for that to happen (and there are a lot of things necessary…
So another interesting second level problem with this is that if the window motor or mechanism fails, you can't use the door at all. I have had window mechanisms fail and had to pop the cover off the door to get it back into place, but in this case you can't get the door open to get in there without breaking the window. So as far as I can tell if the window motor or mechanism fails, you will lose the window if you ev…
Also coupled with the potential sentence of Elizabeth Holmes
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> the squat, flat 'sedan' body style of all their other cars seems very out of date these days In the non american world, where "trucks" are not a daily commuter, a sedan is not out of date . Nor is a hatchback, nor is a ferrari. The family wagon, truck and hybrid truck/suv have been an out of date style for the last 50 years in the developed world.
SUVs have not been around for 50 years …
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On topic though, if they are so unreliable, why are do they have such high consumer satisfaction ratings? https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisf... Maybe I just don't understand the American car consumer market, or may there is a difference in the magnitude of measurements. ---- Also, I hear people in Europe preferring the Shanghai made cars over the Fremont made one (for having better fit and f…
> On topic though, if they are so unreliable, why are do they have such high consumer satisfaction ratings? Because when you buy expensive toys and show them to your friends you cannot admit that they are crap ? It happens all the time.
Anything that adds more steps to a process is not an improvement. Maybe there is something I am missing.
The other controls that are normally on sticks on the steering column would be annoying at first but I think I might get used to that.
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But this not the grapevine; iirc they generate results from (if not anonymous then atleast not publicly shared) replies to Consumer Reports subscriber survey. So from the entire pool of CR subscriber base who agree to reply to their annual survey and who self-report to own Teslas, this group both overwhelmingly chooses to report significant number of car issues AND chooses to report great satisfaction? What is up wit…
I think it's because people who buy a Tesla are fans of Tesla, so the well known reliability issues aren't a problem to them. They aren't buying a Tesla for practical reasons like affordability and reliability, they're buying a Tesla because they want to own a Tesla. It's the same as people who buy poorly made expensive designer clothes and accessories.
There is a reason that every single electric car made by anyone is sold far in advance, including non-Teslas where charging on road trips is still a sub par experience.
That said, until any other carmaker can get to the point where their EV has the tech and range, I won't buy anything else. They're just too much fun.
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If you have a non-Tesla EV you’re really reliant on finding some wall to plug in to. If you are just driving around town, cool you’re good to go and you just go home. If you’re taking a trip for a few hours then you need to charge and that’s where you run into trouble. With Tesla there’s all the Superchargers so that few hour trip is fine with a quick 20 minute charge. For other EVs it’s a few hours at best. This wil…
> For other EVs it’s a few hours at best. Absolutely not true. This is one of those things Tesla diehards keep repeating as if it was 2015 still. You have commercial super-chargers widely available already that can charge a car 80% in 20 minutes: https://youtu.be/ZgeZikh88Wc?t=776