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Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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Is your medicine cabinet empty?

No, I have ibuprofen for when I have a headache lasting more than a day. (It's caffeine... every ... time.)

So you eat ibuprofen, but you couldn't grow or raise it 100 years ago. It was invented in the 60s and wasn't available over the counter until the 80s.

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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What happened in 1921? Or is this one of those baseless "before we had cancer" comments?

I realized at some point that "It's food iff your grandparents would call it food" either has to be amended to add a generation, or we have to accept Oreos pretty soon.

Margarine was invented in 1869. You need to go back a lot farther.

You are also skipping out a lot of newer stuff that wasn't possible back then, but after serious study seems safe. Most of what was done 200 years ago is accepted as safe, but there is no actual evidence for it, and in many cases we know it wasn't. (the obvious example of using lead in finishes for food contact items)

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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If I couldn't grow it or raise it 100 years ago, I don't want to eat it. Open to being convinced otherwise.

What happened in 1921? Or is this one of those baseless "before we had cancer" comments?

I suppose there's some merit in the "before we had cancer" thing. Certainly many people were dying of other stuff long before they would have gotten cancer.

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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Yet another thing on the cancerogenic pile sigh At some point you have to ask yourself if everything but water gives us cancer.

If I couldn't grow it or raise it 100 years ago, I don't want to eat it. Open to being convinced otherwise.

Do you not take Advil? Tums? Antibiotics? or a myriad of other useful medicine?

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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A nice quote[0]:

> Nutella maker, Ferrero, launched an advertising campaign in response to reassure customers that their product is safe. The company insists on keeping their recipe the same, claiming that “making Nutella without palm oil would produce an inferior substitute for the real product, it would be a step backward,” according to Fererro’s purchasing manager, Vincenzo Tapella. The smooth texture Tapella is referring to could be achieved by more expensive oils like sunflower or rapeseed but would increase the cost of production by as much as $22 million.

This was basically the same BS that Johnson & Johnson used to defend BPA baby bottles before the ban.

[0] https://www.prescouter.com/2017/02/dangers-palm-oil-nutella-...

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

#47
For everyone spooked by this. Cancer thrives on many things. And there’s little survival advantage for people who can effectively fight cancer after their reproductive age. All novel carcinogens aside(radiation, air pollution, baby powder), humans often are just not equipped to fight cancer. Certain diets probably can make it a bit better or worse, but they might not be the game changer. Our best bet is technology, like CAR T cells and whatever is invented next.

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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It's a cheap oil in Asia due to a bunch of countries trying to develop their agriculture by planting palm (Indonesia etc.) Makes me think twice about having yan yan snacks and pocky's.

The reason why palm oil is so widespread nowadays is because about 30 years ago it was widely promoted as THE best oil to grow - it has much higher yield than many other oils, and was seen as a "green" alternative since comparatively it takes less land than say, peanut oil. The problem is that yes, it takes less land, but the land that it can be suitably grown on is very important for other things.

To be fair, so is much of our other land, but we have the excuse that we already destroyed it many years ago.

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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If I couldn't grow it or raise it 100 years ago, I don't want to eat it. Open to being convinced otherwise.

Do you not take Advil? Tums? Antibiotics? or a myriad of other useful medicine?

Aspirin is more than 100 years old and people have been eating calcium carbonate for quite some time. I get your point, though.
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