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Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I couldn't grow it or raise it 100 years ago, I don't want to eat it. Open to being convinced otherwise.

What happened in 1921? Or is this one of those baseless "before we had cancer" comments?

I realized at some point that "It's food iff your grandparents would call it food" either has to be amended to add a generation, or we have to accept Oreos pretty soon.

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

#32

Take one look at the modern production process for vegetable oil and this sort of effect is starting you right in the face. Palm, Canola, Rapeseed, Soybean, etc, they're all terrible. I avoid this shit like the plague.

>Take one look at the modern production process for vegetable oil and this sort of effect is starting you right in the face.

Mind elaborating? Without specific details it reeks of the naturalistic fallacy or the "good old days".

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

#33

Yet another thing on the cancerogenic pile sigh At some point you have to ask yourself if everything but water gives us cancer.

To be honest, we're in a constant state of almost having cancer, it's just that our immune system handles the little stuff before it gets out of control. Nothing causes cancer, but certain things tip the scales towards the cancer getting out of control.

(about is all simplified of course)

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

#36

Yet another thing on the cancerogenic pile sigh At some point you have to ask yourself if everything but water gives us cancer.

If I couldn't grow it or raise it 100 years ago, I don't want to eat it. Open to being convinced otherwise.

Do you mean if you personally wouldn't have been to grow it or raise it 100 years ago? Or do you mean something more like "if it wasn't widely accessible 100 years ago"?

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

#37

Take one look at the modern production process for vegetable oil and this sort of effect is starting you right in the face. Palm, Canola, Rapeseed, Soybean, etc, they're all terrible. I avoid this shit like the plague.

Do you not eat out? Most restaurants of all caliber use that garbage.

I know I'm still consuming it when I eat in a restaurant. Best you can currently do is just not buy it for home use.

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I couldn't grow it or raise it 100 years ago, I don't want to eat it. Open to being convinced otherwise.

Is your medicine cabinet empty?

No, I have ibuprofen for when I have a headache lasting more than a day. (It's caffeine... every ... time.)

Re: Palm oil favors tumor expansion

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Well, this study passes the "we dumped a bunch of X on cancer cells in a petri dish and they did a funny thing" red flag test. Xenographs (implanting human cancer cells into mice) have their own caveats (the immune system is almost always severely compromised), but this seems like a cool study. I'm no expert on oral cancers however. Curious to see the implication of the neuronal cells here, I'm looking forward to rea…

Cancer cells can consume multiple energy sources, not exactly news here. Concluding that dietary palmitic acid is a problem is questionable. Palmitate is produced endogenously and dietary palmitic acid does not even influence tissue concentration [1].

[1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5682332/#B81

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