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TheNFTbay.org – The Billion Dollar Torrent (All NFT's from Ethereum and Solana)

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I used to come onto HN and see crypto-coin news and I'd jump into the comments and ask something along the lines of "But isn't bitcoin and all the other things like it just a giant scam?" and someone who believed in Bitcoin to be a transformative technology would jump in and explain the real potential. I personally still think it's sort of a scam, but I'm happy for all of the people who used it to get rich....so, alo…

I think about NFTs as digital vinyls. The cool thing about them is that you can own it, even though you can stream it or download it via torrent.

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I used to come onto HN and see crypto-coin news and I'd jump into the comments and ask something along the lines of "But isn't bitcoin and all the other things like it just a giant scam?" and someone who believed in Bitcoin to be a transformative technology would jump in and explain the real potential. I personally still think it's sort of a scam, but I'm happy for all of the people who used it to get rich....so, alo…

The tried and tested answer is to think about "buying" the Mona Lisa. If the Louvre offered the opportunity for someone to be called the owner of the Mona Lisa but they could never take it out of the Louvre or any way control it what would that sell for? I suspect many, many millions of dollars.

Similarly, you can give millions of dollars to a college and get a building or park named after you. You don't "own" it, you get social status out of it.

NFTs are no different than having a email from the Beanie Baby store saying that you bought the first beanie baby. If someone wants to buy that e-mail from you, then great, you made a profit.

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#43

I used to come onto HN and see crypto-coin news and I'd jump into the comments and ask something along the lines of "But isn't bitcoin and all the other things like it just a giant scam?" and someone who believed in Bitcoin to be a transformative technology would jump in and explain the real potential. I personally still think it's sort of a scam, but I'm happy for all of the people who used it to get rich....so, alo…

I try to conceptualize an NFT inside of a realm that validates it. If you do not operate in a realm that validates something about in the NFT, implying ownership. Then the NFT concept doesn't make sense. If we're operating in some type of meta-realm that can also perform validation of some sort, then the NFT concept at least begins to make sense.

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#44

I used to come onto HN and see crypto-coin news and I'd jump into the comments and ask something along the lines of "But isn't bitcoin and all the other things like it just a giant scam?" and someone who believed in Bitcoin to be a transformative technology would jump in and explain the real potential. I personally still think it's sort of a scam, but I'm happy for all of the people who used it to get rich....so, alo…

Yes, you can screenshot the Mona Lisa or print out a signed Mickey Mantle rookie card, but it's not the same thing is it? The verifiable timestamp and record of account associated with a wallet address (public key) that is known to be associated with the artist that produced the work is the same as establishing physical provenance for a unique item. And as for value goes, NFTs are far more liquid than physical art wo…

People continue to misunderstand even the above, and think that it's somehow actually conferring them the rights to all the bytes, and the results are hilarious: https://twitter.com/JackShawhan/status/1457951413368016899

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I used to come onto HN and see crypto-coin news and I'd jump into the comments and ask something along the lines of "But isn't bitcoin and all the other things like it just a giant scam?" and someone who believed in Bitcoin to be a transformative technology would jump in and explain the real potential. I personally still think it's sort of a scam, but I'm happy for all of the people who used it to get rich....so, alo…

> ... this image ...

https://img.rarible.com/prod/image/upload/t_big/prod-itemIma...

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#46
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The images are not even stored on the blockchain. So you are basically purchasing a very expensive receipt for something that you do not even 'own' and the images are sitting on a server somewhere. This is definitive proof that these sort of NFTs based on images, videos, etc are a complete and gigantic scam ready to collapse. QED.

Ever bought a game or a movie yet ?

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#47

I used to come onto HN and see crypto-coin news and I'd jump into the comments and ask something along the lines of "But isn't bitcoin and all the other things like it just a giant scam?" and someone who believed in Bitcoin to be a transformative technology would jump in and explain the real potential. I personally still think it's sort of a scam, but I'm happy for all of the people who used it to get rich....so, alo…

Anyone buying an NFT is getting an NFT. Nobody is getting tricked, a necessary condition for a scam. Therefore there is no scam.

When they discover that what they bought is an NFT, some people are so mad that they blame everyone else for right-clicking.

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I can explain. I understand why others value them, although I don't agree with the valuation (as a litmus test, I also think shelling out $30k for a genuine Rolex is very stupid). My lack of agreement also does not prevent me from participating and profiting off the people who think they do have value, although I have not done so. There are basically two theories of their value: the collectible theory and the…

>they never degrade on the blockchain That's entirely wrong. None of the NFTs are stored on the blockchain, merely a bit of JSON that contains a link to your image. If you're lucky, it's hosted on IPFS (and it'll disappear whenever everyone stops seeding it). Otherwise, it's just a link to your image host of choice, and the author is free to replace it with the image of a dick in three months, deleting all your resal…

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#49
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I can explain. I understand why others value them, although I don't agree with the valuation (as a litmus test, I also think shelling out $30k for a genuine Rolex is very stupid). My lack of agreement also does not prevent me from participating and profiting off the people who think they do have value, although I have not done so. There are basically two theories of their value: the collectible theory and the…

>they never degrade on the blockchain That's entirely wrong. None of the NFTs are stored on the blockchain, merely a bit of JSON that contains a link to your image. If you're lucky, it's hosted on IPFS (and it'll disappear whenever everyone stops seeding it). Otherwise, it's just a link to your image host of choice, and the author is free to replace it with the image of a dick in three months, deleting all your resal…

> No, it authenticates the seller

Reminds me of that tweet about how programmers are like compilers that read things until they find the first concept they disagree with, then post it like an error message. Read the directly-following parenthetical.

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#50
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you can screenshot the Mona Lisa or print out a signed Mickey Mantle rookie card, but it's not the same thing is it? The verifiable timestamp and record of account associated with a wallet address (public key) that is known to be associated with the artist that produced the work is the same as establishing physical provenance for a unique item. And as for value goes, NFTs are far more liquid than physical art wo…

> Yes, you can screenshot the Mona Lisa or print out a signed Mickey Mantle rookie card, but it's not the same thing is it? Obviously not, because those are tangible things. That’s not a valid comparison.

I'm not an NFT fan by any stretch of the imagination but you can buy a reproduction of the Mona Lisa or a fake Mickey Mantle card.

https://www.amazon.com/DECORARTS-Leonardo-Davinci-Classic-Re...

Obviously, the real mona lisa or the mickey mantle card has value because they were painted by famous artists, or signed by a famous baseball player... But at the end of the day they only have value because someone says they have value.

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