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Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by e12e »

the8472 wrote: post #114
e12e wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But, your mail might bounce without proper sfp setup. (preventing random from like in the good old days (president@whitehouse.gov) is pretty much the raison d'être for sfp... For better or worse).

That's not relevant for the discussion in this thread where we already assume you have a custom domain with catchall inbox setup. The custom From is still needed to be able to actually send from any address on that domain.

Yes, and part of that setup is proper sfp setup? Eg allow sending from Gmail with a from on your domain?

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by groovecoder »

hokonch wrote: post #72
groovecoder wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Tech lead of Relay here) Thanks for the detail! We'll look into this. We definitely want to maximize deliverability.

I'm glad to hear it! It's been almost a year since I reported this bug, and I still run into web-compat issues everywhere.

Thanks for reporting it! Nothing like an influx of new users (and now premium customers!) to re-light some fire under a bug! We'll work on it.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by cuonic »

duquedeturing wrote: post #41

Country limited... sight : "⁨Relay Premium⁩ is available in the United States, Germany, United Kingdom, Canada, Singapore, Malaysia, New Zealand, France, Belgium, Austria, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Netherlands, and Ireland. " ( https://relay.firefox.com/faq )

Tried signing up for Relay Premium (from France), Stripe is telling me that "The currency of this subscription isn't valid for the country associated with your payment"...

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by drdaeman »

groovecoder wrote: post #110
drdaeman wrote: post #95

> Your own email domain youremail@yourdomain.mozmail.com I don't understand why would one want to pay for a step down in privacy, voluntarily adding an identifier that allows to track them. The only thing it does is adding some extra information about the alias owner - something that does not make any sense to me, given that the whole point of the service is to obscure users' identities. I would understand really usi…

Howdy, relay engineer here. The random aliases at mozmail.com are certainly the most private option. The subdomain aliases are for convenience so you can make up any alias you want even if you don't have a device on you. (e.g., checking into a hotel, etc.) As you say - there's always trade-offs involved.

Aah, so the personal subdomains are catch-all accounts? So one doesn't have to talk to the Relay services at all and can just give out whatevertheycanthinkof@yourname.mozmail.com and it would get forwarded?

If so - thank you, yes, now I see the point. My bad and please consider telling marketing team to highlight this hotel use case more prominently, because without it just comparing @mozmail.com vs @foo.mozmail.com is not really compelling and could be even confusing.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by mike_d »

Vinnl wrote: post #39
the_duke wrote: post #26

I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

Heh, I work on Relay and I do the same :) While the approach is great, especially in situations away from my computer where I can't generate a new alias in advance, working on it I discovered that using Relay still has a couple of advantages: - My other addresses are unguessable. - It's far easier to block emails sent to a single alias. With my own domain, I'll have to go and add a filter into which I copy-paste the…

What is Relay going to do when the domain ends up on one of the many "disposable email address" blocklists?

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by encryptluks2 »

vxNsr wrote: post #103
encryptluks2 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ended up choosing Abine Blur. The interface isn't as nice, but it seemed more security-focused. Privacy.com seemed to actually collect a lot of information and prevent you from removing it later on.

> Abine Blur So, I just googled them, they look interesting but their website seems intent on obfuscating what they do, it uses a lot of marketing speak but doesn't tell me how it works. Are you able to use your own domain for the "email masking"? Are you giving them your bank info for the credit card masking or are they billing the credit card on file?

I'm not sure om the first question because I use SimpleLogin for email masking instead, but the second one it is advised to use your bank info so there are no fees. The plan I am on I get unlimited masked cards as long as I use a bank. There is a fee to use a credit card. There is a minimum amount per masked card of $10 but you can immediately request a refund once you use whatever amount or if they just pre-authorize something.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by the8472 »

e12e wrote: post #121
the8472 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not relevant for the discussion in this thread where we already assume you have a custom domain with catchall inbox setup. The custom From is still needed to be able to actually send from any address on that domain.

Yes, and part of that setup is proper sfp setup? Eg allow sending from Gmail with a from on your domain?

I don't see how it's specific to sending from thunderbird. It's a general issue if you want to use a domain for mailing.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by voltaireodactyl »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #105
the_duke wrote: post #26

I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

I do this but on my main domain. I have another domain and I guess I might to move spam catching exclusively to that domain. Anyway the trouble is writing mail to those services or replying to those. I have 13 from email usernames in my Mail.app right now on my domain. Then I stopped it. It’s just so tedious. I wish there was an app that would let me easily do it once I proved I’m the domain owner maybe - just let me…

For what it’s worth, MailMate on mac allows for responding via the received address in just the way you describe. It’s a large part of why I ultimately landed on using it exclusively.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by climb_stealth »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #105
the_duke wrote: post #26

I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

I do this but on my main domain. I have another domain and I guess I might to move spam catching exclusively to that domain. Anyway the trouble is writing mail to those services or replying to those. I have 13 from email usernames in my Mail.app right now on my domain. Then I stopped it. It’s just so tedious. I wish there was an app that would let me easily do it once I proved I’m the domain owner maybe - just let me…

As someone else already mentioned, the Fastmail interface makes this super easy. When you respond to an email it by default sends from the email that was addressed. And when you send emails you can enter anything in the from field for your own domains.

The only issue I have had is non-technical people getting confused when I have their business name in my email address.

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