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Re: Firefox Relay

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That is accurate for any and all approaches with email, but it does not negate the (significant) incremental improvements this strategy grants you.

> "That is accurate for any and all approaches with email" The likelihood of a takeover of @gmail.com or @icloud.com is much lower though.

Instead those can just cancel your account without explanation or recourse. With a registrar you have a contractual relationship enforceable in your local jurisdiction.

Re: Firefox Relay

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I'm conflicted about this. For me, the best implementation of private alias is the Apple one: %randomwords%[at]icloud.com. It's way harder to wildcard block [at]icloud.com, as there are legit users of the icloud domain, than a wildcard block for: [at]mozmail.com. Unfortunately, using the apple implementation is just one more stone into their walled garden. I really wish firefox could create a legit free [at]firefox (…

> They bought Pocket (which I loved) and now it's on life support. I've been waiting a long time to find someone who thought that Pocket was a good idea. Can you expand on what you like about it being integrated into firefox natively as opposed to an extension?

I've been a heavy user of Pocket, and I obviously think it's great. In the end it's not much more than a reading list, but what really makes it useful is its integration with the Kobo e-readers. I can happen upon an interesting long form article at work, save it to Pocket and read it on the subway on the way home on my phone, or before sleeping on the e-reader.

I'm not a Firefox user, so I'm using the extension, but if I were I'd really appreciate the integration.

Re: Firefox Relay

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This is cool, however, personally I feel like for my use case that integration with 1Password and Fastmail is better because I don't want to depend on a browser that I cannot use everywhere to manage this. In the same way that I avoid Sign in with Apple - what am I supposed to do when I need to Sign in without Apple?! I find 1P+FM is a much more cross-platform solution. However, I commend Firefox for creating this fu…

Right with you on Fastmail, it's excellent. Just wondering though where do you feel you can't use Firefox? As far as I know it runs on all major platforms even if the rendering engine on iOS is still Safari.

Re: Firefox Relay

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I have domains with catchall so every email is different, can be created on the fly and can be easily revoked. This is the simplest solution I think.

If you rely on catchall, doesn't that make it more difficult to eliminate spam from breaches or bad actor companies/services? With aliases and no catchall, I just delete a one-time-use alias and all spam goes away. Can you do something similar even if you are using catchall?

With a catchall you can just setup a filter rule that auto-deletes mails to certain destination addresses and add more to the filter as they get compromised. Which doesn't even happen all that often in my experience.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Urgh, on one hand i love the idea and i think its a good business venture for mozilla. On the other hand, they are injecting little scare bubbles into everybody's website to advertise this, and that rubs me up the wrong way so much i want nothing to do with it.

You only get the bubbles if you install the extension.

Re: Firefox Relay

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post #25

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> They bought Pocket (which I loved) and now it's on life support. I've been waiting a long time to find someone who thought that Pocket was a good idea. Can you expand on what you like about it being integrated into firefox natively as opposed to an extension?

I've been a heavy user of Pocket, and I obviously think it's great. In the end it's not much more than a reading list, but what really makes it useful is its integration with the Kobo e-readers. I can happen upon an interesting long form article at work, save it to Pocket and read it on the subway on the way home on my phone, or before sleeping on the e-reader. I'm not a Firefox user, so I'm using the extension, but…

Thanks for the reply. However, I was specifically hoping to hear a testimonial from a Firefox user who prefers it as a native integration rather than the extension.

Re: Firefox Relay

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I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

> I have a custom domain just for signups

I keep reading about people who say they have a custom domain, but I'm not sure they're aware of the caveat to that. You have to keep renewing it, and domains are infamously changing hands all the time, sometimes to bad actors who want to use the SEO juice of the domain for spam or affiliate marketing, or in the worst case: to take over your identity with it.

By all means, yes, keep it renewed, but if you stop renewing it (for whatever reason), assume all the accounts you have tied to it will be in someone elses hands.

Re: Firefox Relay

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I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

Word of advice for anybody doing this: make sure you have a way to SEND email using one of your aliased addresses - because one day you will find a critical service provider can't process your emailed attachments unless sent from your registered email address (e.g. insurance claim document, bank documents, etc.)

Re: Firefox Relay

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Country limited... sight : "⁨Relay Premium⁩ is available in the United States, Germany, United Kingdom, Canada, Singapore, Malaysia, New Zealand, France, Belgium, Austria, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Netherlands, and Ireland. " ( https://relay.firefox.com/faq )

(Relay engineer here.)

Note that that's for the Premium service - the free tier is available in most countries. We're hoping to expand to more countries in the future.

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