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Re: Daddy isn’t coming back

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

SapporoChris wrote: post #3

I have a black thought on this. I would be happy if someone corrected me. When something breaks, sometimes we repair it, sometimes we throw it out. The more valuable the item, the more we will spend to fix it. However even with the most valuable items, we sometimes reluctantly decide that it is broken beyond repair. Are people like this? Are some simply too broken to fix? I feel awful thinking this, but I wonder if t…

Often it isn't that things are too broken to be fixed, it's just that no one cares to expend the resources to fix them. I think people are like that.

Re: Daddy isn’t coming back

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Post by podgaj »

SapporoChris wrote: post #3

I have a black thought on this. I would be happy if someone corrected me. When something breaks, sometimes we repair it, sometimes we throw it out. The more valuable the item, the more we will spend to fix it. However even with the most valuable items, we sometimes reluctantly decide that it is broken beyond repair. Are people like this? Are some simply too broken to fix? I feel awful thinking this, but I wonder if t…

It is not that we are too broken to fix, people are just afraid of us because we reveal the fragility of the mental state. And people are just greedy as well.

I do not ask for much help, all I need a simple place to live. A studio or something that is clean. That would help me so much. But all they build now are luxury studio apartments. Most of us would be fine with some stability. For the more serious cases we should bring back the institutions that they dismantled in the 70's.

Re: Daddy isn’t coming back

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Post by monkeybutton »

lazypenguin wrote: post #4
SapporoChris wrote: post #3

I have a black thought on this. I would be happy if someone corrected me. When something breaks, sometimes we repair it, sometimes we throw it out. The more valuable the item, the more we will spend to fix it. However even with the most valuable items, we sometimes reluctantly decide that it is broken beyond repair. Are people like this? Are some simply too broken to fix? I feel awful thinking this, but I wonder if t…

Objectively, it's possible to be "too broken" to be fixed (e.g. acute blunt force trauma, malignant tumor, etc.) where the only "fix" is palliative care. Although, I think technically we would say: "too broken to fix based on our CURRENT tools, knowledge and resources". It's an interesting thought experiment to think about how advanced can we become where anything is fixable?

Mental illness is not contagious and it is not entirely learned either. By fixing it, you are changing the physical substrate of the mind. Did you fix anything at all? Or did you destroy one mind and create a new one in its place.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

SapporoChris wrote: post #3

I have a black thought on this. I would be happy if someone corrected me. When something breaks, sometimes we repair it, sometimes we throw it out. The more valuable the item, the more we will spend to fix it. However even with the most valuable items, we sometimes reluctantly decide that it is broken beyond repair. Are people like this? Are some simply too broken to fix? I feel awful thinking this, but I wonder if t…

There's an oft-used Lord of the Rings quote:

“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.”

What is a broken person? since we're all fallible beings ourselves, who could possibly decide that someone is broken beyond repair? It doesn't matter if there's truth to it.

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Post by windock »

podgaj wrote: post #10

I have schizoaffective bipolar disorder, and aspergers. I was making $130,000 a year as a network engineer at Cisco in 1999 before I became too sick to work anymore. Right now I am homeless living in my van with a transmission about to go. I have attempted suicide three times already. I keep thinking about doing it again. No one wants to provide me the best medicine, stable housing. I make $1700 on disability but I c…

I’m sorry to hear it is so bad. Thank you for sharing

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Post by whalesalad »

SapporoChris wrote: post #3

I have a black thought on this. I would be happy if someone corrected me. When something breaks, sometimes we repair it, sometimes we throw it out. The more valuable the item, the more we will spend to fix it. However even with the most valuable items, we sometimes reluctantly decide that it is broken beyond repair. Are people like this? Are some simply too broken to fix? I feel awful thinking this, but I wonder if t…

You should not feel awful saying this.

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Post by jstx1 »

SapporoChris wrote: post #3

I have a black thought on this. I would be happy if someone corrected me. When something breaks, sometimes we repair it, sometimes we throw it out. The more valuable the item, the more we will spend to fix it. However even with the most valuable items, we sometimes reluctantly decide that it is broken beyond repair. Are people like this? Are some simply too broken to fix? I feel awful thinking this, but I wonder if t…

If you think about it coldly, that's probably true - there are a bunch of different human-mental states, why would all of them be reparable? It's more likely that some are and some aren't. But all of this is difficult to measure so regardless of what state you're in, you do the best you can with what you have.

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Post by winrid »

podgaj wrote: post #10

I have schizoaffective bipolar disorder, and aspergers. I was making $130,000 a year as a network engineer at Cisco in 1999 before I became too sick to work anymore. Right now I am homeless living in my van with a transmission about to go. I have attempted suicide three times already. I keep thinking about doing it again. No one wants to provide me the best medicine, stable housing. I make $1700 on disability but I c…

Chevy van? Damn 4L60 transmissions suck. Sometimes it's just a solenoid, and sometimes shifting it manually might get some more life out of it.

I hope you can get help. I have a few family members with schizophrenia / bipolar disorder and the way society treats them is like shit.

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Post by BurningFrog »

podgaj wrote: post #10

I have schizoaffective bipolar disorder, and aspergers. I was making $130,000 a year as a network engineer at Cisco in 1999 before I became too sick to work anymore. Right now I am homeless living in my van with a transmission about to go. I have attempted suicide three times already. I keep thinking about doing it again. No one wants to provide me the best medicine, stable housing. I make $1700 on disability but I c…

> The fact that I cannot get housing just proves no one cares.

All it proves is that there is a big housing shortage.

Have you tried taking your van somewhere where housing is dirt cheap?

I hear small poor towns are better at taking care of the downtrodden too. Walk into the church poor people go to, and see what happens.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

jstx1 wrote: post #9

Knowing that you're at high risk of suicide or have other serious mental health problems is also a good reason to avoid having kids. This isn't directed at the author of the article or their partner; it's how I think when I plan my own life.

There are a lot of mental health issues that make this level of self-awareness and future planning incredibly difficult.
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