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Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by fragmede »

WalterBright wrote: post #57
kayodelycaon wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there is. I think they are just speaking from their own experience. They are an authority on their own life experience and know what they've learned but that doesn't generalize. Advice is only right for the right person at the right time. > The best way to be liked is to just agree with everyone. This view is incomplete. Human relationships are build on connections. You can create those connections by agreein…

> The best way to be liked is to just agree with everyone. Maybe I'm different, but people who just agree with me are uninteresting.

I think you're totally wrong!

Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by kovac »

cblconfederate wrote: post #29

I was just wondering, are there disconnected internets that i can join? I d rather stay in a limited sector that is not overpopulated and oversaturated with the mainstream, even if it has huge downsides. Just like how biology uses membranes to build the useful stuff , i think we need harder borders between internet communities to increase the variance. Everyone moving around like a giant mob and lashing at each other…

There's gopher where there is still quite a number of interesting posts. There's also a more recent network called gemini which is gaining in popularity.

Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by Kye »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #15
francisofascii wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

America is a big place. Being alive today allows us to be exposed to a multitude of diverse communities. If you select a particular place or community at random, chances are, you won't fit in. But there probably is a group you DO fit into. The situation today is much better than our ancestors, who were born into a tribe, and were probably stuck living within that tribe.

This. I'm the only person in my extended family who has an artistic/creative personality. Fitting in in a small midwestern city was not an option. I find a few friends in college for a while but graduation separated us. Fortunately, the internet made finding a community to belong possible. Since joining the furry fandom, I haven't been wanting for a place to belong.

The furry community is most of the reason I'm holding on these days. Support at a few key moments from Suspiciously Wealthy Furries (not really suspicious, just employed in tech) helped get my life sort of on track.

Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by ospzfmbbzr »

Funny that when Vancouver was a 'backwater' as the article refers to it was when it was much more affordable and a lot less crowded. In other words much nicer to live in. Now the costs exceed the value of living there, which is diminished due to overcrowding, as well as real estate speculation and crime driven sky-high housing costs, and I know it better than most here.

Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by [deleted] »

cblconfederate wrote: post #29

I was just wondering, are there disconnected internets that i can join? I d rather stay in a limited sector that is not overpopulated and oversaturated with the mainstream, even if it has huge downsides. Just like how biology uses membranes to build the useful stuff , i think we need harder borders between internet communities to increase the variance. Everyone moving around like a giant mob and lashing at each other…

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Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by krapp »

WalterBright wrote: post #60
IAmWorried wrote: post #3

Honestly does anybody NOT feel alienated in our current society? The US is overly hostile, we imported the whole world and all its cultural hangups with it. I mean if you're white people are shitting on you, if you're black people are shitting on you, if you're male people are shitting on you, if you're female people are shitting on you... like what exactly is this country FOR? Does anybody REALLY feel like they belo…

> does anybody NOT feel alienated in our current society? > does anybody NOT feel alienated in our current society? I do not feel alienated. > Does anybody REALLY feel like they belong in America? I do. > what exactly is this country FOR? It's for people who want their fundamental rights guaranteed so they can do whatever they choose to do, like be a rock star, build rockets to go to Mars, race motorcycles, write poe…

>It's for people who want their fundamental rights guaranteed so they can do whatever they choose to do, like be a rock star, build rockets to go to Mars, race motorcycles, write poetry, etc.

>It's not for people who want cradle-to-grave security and want someone else to make all the decisions for them. Nor is it for people who want to run other peoples' lives.

America is only for people who agree with your politics, gotcha.

Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by krapp »

IAmWorried wrote: post #3

Honestly does anybody NOT feel alienated in our current society? The US is overly hostile, we imported the whole world and all its cultural hangups with it. I mean if you're white people are shitting on you, if you're black people are shitting on you, if you're male people are shitting on you, if you're female people are shitting on you... like what exactly is this country FOR? Does anybody REALLY feel like they belo…

>I mean if you're white people are shitting on you, if you're black people are shitting on you, if you're male people are shitting on you, if you're female people are shitting on you...

I mean, that's still better than when America was just white men shitting on everyone else.

Or to put it in less snarky terms, this is what happens when all of the demographics in a society have the ability to express themselves and wield social and political power, rather than just one.

Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by mixmastamyk »

Kye wrote: post #58
mixmastamyk wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turn off the TV and anti-social media, take a walk in the sunshine, and voila.

Now I'm tired and still in the exact same situation. Everyone I know is still overworked, underpaid, and has no time or energy to socialize. All social activities still require driving on gas that's $3+/gallon on top of everything costing money.

Sounds like you need to cut back, way back. ;-)

https://bemorewithless.com/the-story-of-the-mexican-fisherma...

Walkable neighborhoods exist as well.

Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by dragonwriter »

ospzfmbbzr wrote: post #64

Funny that when Vancouver was a 'backwater' as the article refers to it was when it was much more affordable and a lot less crowded. In other words much nicer to live in. Now the costs exceed the value of living there, which is diminished due to overcrowding, as well as real estate speculation and crime driven sky-high housing costs, and I know it better than most here.

> Funny that when Vancouver was a 'backwater' as the article refers to it was when it was much more affordable and a lot less crowded

Fewer people wanting to live their and those who do being less willing to spend a lot to do so is pretty much the definition of a backwater, so, no, its not really funny.

> Now the costs exceed the value of living there

To you, perhaps, but if that was generally true compared to the time you are comparing it to, fewer people would be paying the price to live there now than then.

Re: The benefits of not belonging

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Post by WalterBright »

fragmede wrote: post #61
WalterBright wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The best way to be liked is to just agree with everyone. Maybe I'm different, but people who just agree with me are uninteresting.

I think you're totally wrong!

Hmm, I like the cut of your jib!
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