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Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Betteridge's law of headlines says there isn't.

And of course, the law holds true here. There is a crisis in some parts of the US but overall, the homeless rate has been relatively stable.

Is there a reason for the richest country in history to have homelessness anywhere?

Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Another attempt to convince you that your personal observations must be incorrect because someone found a stat from a study somewhere.

LA, Portland & SF– are obviously measurably worse over the past decade. Portland is a case of going from beautiful downtown to cesspool in that timeframe.

There are a lot of reasons that stats are misleading. Noise in the data, biases, trivial statistics, incorrect measurement, poor geographic approaches.

Please don't sit at your desk and tell me what I see out my window doesn't exist.

Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Can you please not post unsubstantive comments to HN? We're trying for higher-quality discussion, to the extent that that's possible on the internet. This is particularly important when a thread is fresh because threads are so sensitive to initial conditions. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

So you'll allow a title that ask a question.. and then someone answers it and you have an issue with their answer? How do you pretend to claim to know that there isn't a homeless criss?

Of course they didn't answer the question—that would require relevant information. A substanceless oneliner (and in the form of an internet trope, even) is not that.

Surely it isn't hard to understand that "Yes. Yes there is." is an unsubstantive comment. This is not a borderline call.

Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Another attempt to convince you that your personal observations must be incorrect because someone found a stat from a study somewhere. LA, Portland & SF– are obviously measurably worse over the past decade. Portland is a case of going from beautiful downtown to cesspool in that timeframe. There are a lot of reasons that stats are misleading. Noise in the data, biases, trivial statistics, incorrect measurement, poor g…

Add Seattle to the list as well. It has been years since I felt safe taking my family downtown but now I don't even feel safe in most parks.

Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Excellent breakdown of data on homeless populations across the US. It could use a better title. This is worth looking at. It is not your usual opinion piece on the topic. It's all data and it's very good.

I've replaced the title with your description. Thanks! Hopefully it will help the thread be more substantive.

(Submitted title was "Is there a homelessness crisis?")

Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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We're a country of 350,000,000 people. Leaving 500,000 outside simply because municipalities don't want them around is inexcusable. Solution in two parts 1. Make it legal to build homes where people live (looking at you California, specifically LA, SF, SV) 2. Build dorm style shelters for anyone that would otherwise sleep outside There's complicating issues like not enough addiction treatment and mental health facili…

What do you do if someone wants to sleep on the street?

Where do you build these dorms?

Are there barriers to living in these dorms? Sobriety requirements, job searching, etc?

We should definitely try to solve this but I don't think it is simple at all.

Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Another attempt to convince you that your personal observations must be incorrect because someone found a stat from a study somewhere. LA, Portland & SF– are obviously measurably worse over the past decade. Portland is a case of going from beautiful downtown to cesspool in that timeframe. There are a lot of reasons that stats are misleading. Noise in the data, biases, trivial statistics, incorrect measurement, poor g…

How much geographic diversity does your window look out to?

I don’t doubt what you’re seeing. But that only tells a very specific story in the bigger picture.

Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Another attempt to convince you that your personal observations must be incorrect because someone found a stat from a study somewhere. LA, Portland & SF– are obviously measurably worse over the past decade. Portland is a case of going from beautiful downtown to cesspool in that timeframe. There are a lot of reasons that stats are misleading. Noise in the data, biases, trivial statistics, incorrect measurement, poor g…

Seems like you didn’t read the article to the end. It discusses the spike in unsheltered chronic homelessness on the west coast, which is the most visible type.

Re: Breakdown of data on homeless populations across the U.S.

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Another attempt to convince you that your personal observations must be incorrect because someone found a stat from a study somewhere. LA, Portland & SF– are obviously measurably worse over the past decade. Portland is a case of going from beautiful downtown to cesspool in that timeframe. There are a lot of reasons that stats are misleading. Noise in the data, biases, trivial statistics, incorrect measurement, poor g…

Did you read the article? It's saying chronic unsheltered poopulations are increasing on the west coast, which also seems to be your observation.
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