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Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by long_time_gone »

reaperducer wrote: post #281
long_time_gone wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> thisismyconfig.txt vs this is my config.txt or this_is_my_config.txt Just wondering, what is the readability of this for people who are dyslexic?

Or in my case, people for whom English is a second language, or have low education levels. Saying, "who can't understand..." is arrogant, selfish, and an example of why normal people hate people in the SV echo chamber.

> Saying, "who can't understand..." is arrogant, selfish, and an example of why normal people hate people in the SV echo chamber

Exactly how I feel every time Economics is brought up on HN.

Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by chris_wot »

pimterry wrote: post #106

I work on a complex desktop application, and it's been astounding the number of bugs that have appeared over the years triggered by spaces and other unusual characters in file names. If you do anything with subprocesses or path processing, it's absurdly easy to hit in a thousand different ways, over and over again. Pro tip: rename your development directory (or even better: the workspace path in CI) to put a space an…

And yet OneDrive WP t allow fir spaces before or after a file name.

Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by onychomys »

Raineer wrote: post #139
hardwaresofton wrote: post #87

I am also that age, and kebab-case is the best case for filenames. 2021-01-01-some-important-document.pdf gives me the warm fuzzies. On the off chance that some more differentiation is needed, throw in an underscore and a whole new world opens up

In my work, today's date would be 21K11, to save space over the longer date.

Are you working in some embedded system with tiny memory space or something? What's the use of saving one character? Just make it YYMMDD!

Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by HNo »

mikepurvis wrote: post #274
echelon wrote: post #231

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Better solution: only allow ASCII, maybe dashes, and up to twelve characters. Problem solved. Enforce this in LDAP. Strict convention is better than flexibility and predicting obscure edge cases that can fail.

Ugh, we have the 15 character Active Directory limit now with hostnames, and a previous IT administration has imposed a convention that every name had to follow [prod|dev]-[ph|vm]-[service]-[nn]. So basically every production service is prod-vm-owtf-01— you get exactly four characters to actually describe what the machine does. Works great when the service is "jira" or "wiki", but there are a lot that are pretty myst…

I kind of like that honestly. No doubt you need some documentation so everyone knows what the service abbreviations are, but after you've been working there for a month you get it. Makes everything clean, consistent, and informational. You can quickly ascertain what a specific host is doing just from the name.

Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by dhosek »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #297
grishka wrote: post #247

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Huh, spaces. There's way too much software, especially on Windows, that breaks when there are Cyrillic characters in a path. I'll let you guess how I found out.

A friend had the username "Rubén" and jfc it broke everything other than windows itself xD

The problem isn't the Cyrillic or the é but the fact that Windows lets you put those characters in file names in non-Unicode encodings which will create sequences of bytes which are invalid UTF-8. It's 2021, FFS, stop using legacy encodings.

Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by Liquix »

kingcharles wrote: post #212
TacticalCoder wrote: post #169

Define " space ". Is the Hangul filler we talked about yesterday a spacing character? Is the zero-width non-breaking space a spacing character? What about the typographic spacing characters? You should better be very afraid of using spaces in filenames. You should do everything you can to support them but you have to know you'll invariably encounter countless cases where you'll have this or that tool that won't work…

You get all those space characters working and then some jerk comes along and uploads a file like this: ŗ̶̧̢͓̳͍͙͔̳̻̥͉̭͓̫̟͍̞̭͉͓͉̮̹͍͚̳̹̬͉͚̰͈̘̐̊̾̈̀̒͒̀͛̓̋̔͊̏͘̚ę̴̨̛̣͙̤̟̬̩̟͙͖̥̹̱̱̊͑͗̇̇͛̆̈́̃͋̓̀̔̍̍̌̐͊̎̓̅̀̕ͅģ̴̹̜̘͍̱̑͐̉̌̐̄̊͛̎́̐̌̅̈́͂͑̈́̋̔͂̊̊̒̒̔͛͆̚͘̕͠e̶̙͕̫̳̘͐̾́̑͆̓͂̿͊̊̍͛͐̌̆͗̌̅̅̔͊̂͛͗̅̕͝͝͝͝x̵̢̧̦̫͖̝̥̹͓̬͖̤̩͚̝̫̋̃̅̈́̆͋̌͑́̎̈́̊̾͒̀̒̎̓͛͊̿̓͊̀̍͐̆̚͝͝-̴̨̮̯͖͖̠̜̲̪͕̘͈͖̮̈́̓̐̃́̅̄̏́̍̉̐͌́̔̓̄͋͗̐̕͜͝ţ̴̢̧̖̗͖̞̮̫̦̼̝̺̼̱̳͓͉̜̟̤̲͖̻͙́̌̈̌̈͆̾̄͊̿̏̓͗̈́̕͜ͅh̶̽́͊̎͐͌̆̍̎̏̕͝…

For anyone who is curious (and acolytes of Zalgo): "In Unicode, character rendering does not use a simple character cell model where each glyph fits into a box with given height. Combining marks may be rendered above, below, or inside a base character. So you can easily construct a character sequence, consisting of a base character and “combining above” marks, of any length, to reach any desired visual height, assuming that the rendering software conforms to the Unicode rendering model."

[https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6579844/how-does-zalgo-t...]

Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by jaywalk »

mastax wrote: post #278
Karuma wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Programmers should never put DLLs in those folders... Or even ever touch them.

Except for \Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts, of course.

I occasionally try to search for the reasoning behind the location of the hosts file in Windows, and I always come up blank.

Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by kingcharles »

Loughla wrote: post #232
kingcharles wrote: post #212

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You get all those space characters working and then some jerk comes along and uploads a file like this: ŗ̶̧̢͓̳͍͙͔̳̻̥͉̭͓̫̟͍̞̭͉͓͉̮̹͍͚̳̹̬͉͚̰͈̘̐̊̾̈̀̒͒̀͛̓̋̔͊̏͘̚ę̴̨̛̣͙̤̟̬̩̟͙͖̥̹̱̱̊͑͗̇̇͛̆̈́̃͋̓̀̔̍̍̌̐͊̎̓̅̀̕ͅģ̴̹̜̘͍̱̑͐̉̌̐̄̊͛̎́̐̌̅̈́͂͑̈́̋̔͂̊̊̒̒̔͛͆̚͘̕͠e̶̙͕̫̳̘͐̾́̑͆̓͂̿͊̊̍͛͐̌̆͗̌̅̅̔͊̂͛͗̅̕͝͝͝͝x̵̢̧̦̫͖̝̥̹͓̬͖̤̩͚̝̫̋̃̅̈́̆͋̌͑́̎̈́̊̾͒̀̒̎̓͛͊̿̓͊̀̍͐̆̚͝͝-̴̨̮̯͖͖̠̜̲̪͕̘͈͖̮̈́̓̐̃́̅̄̏́̍̉̐͌́̔̓̄͋͗̐̕͜͝ţ̴̢̧̖̗͖̞̮̫̦̼̝̺̼̱̳͓͉̜̟̤̲͖̻͙́̌̈̌̈͆̾̄͊̿̏̓͗̈́̕͜ͅh̶̽́͊̎͐͌̆̍̎̏̕͝…

This legitimately made me laugh out loud in my office. The characters reach up off the screen as I reply to this. They overlay the comment above you. Amazing. How?

This is the best generator I found: https://lingojam.com/GlitchTextGenerator

Re: I'm “still afraid to use spaces in file names” years old

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Post by 0des »

abdusco wrote: post #309
0des wrote: post #190

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You know, this makes me wonder.. tangentially speaking- I wonder how hard it would be to rearrange the folder structure in linux so that I have something like this: /Users/{root, user0, user1, ... }... /System/{Logs, Apps/{opt, container, ...}, Temp, Conf ...}... /Devices/{Mount, sda, sdb, null ...}... /Boot/...

This is what I want from Linux. Sensible & guessable names for newcomers to figure out where to put files and programs. It's frustrating having to spend time to decide whether I should install a program in /var or /opt or /usr. What do they even mean! So, I disagree with this convention altogether and use /apps or ~/apps now.

Behold! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standar...
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