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Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

olyjohn wrote: post #19
quyleanh wrote: post #8

As an user, I look at the search results to evaluate the quality of an app store. Microsoft needs to change this problem. Many trash and scam apps are on Microsoft Store for years. User and even developer do not want to download and push their apps in a place like this.

It's fucking sad. This is exactly how the MS Store looked 10 years ago when Windows 8 came out. How has it not changed at all? These assholes don't seem to have a clue why nobody wants to use their store. Maybe someone at Microsoft should actually try using their products. The poor employees have buggy shit dogfooded to them all the time, while I bet all the C-levels and other execs have Apple shit for work and home.

Where is Steve Ballmer when you need him!

https://www.businessinsider.com/ballmer-snatches-microsoft-e...

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Post by qwerty456127 »

saurik wrote: post #17
qwerty456127 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

App stores should just have sections curated by humans with reason (and also the wilderness - as a separate section).

I agree, though I might even go further? My controversial take (as someone who ran a very popular software market for a decade myself, which notably didn't do what I am saying, though was effectively handicapped in its search for other reasons): they simply shouldn't have search or discovery of their own, as it is going to be some opportunity for the moral equivalent of a TOCTUO "parser differential" security issue t…

Sounds reasonable. But why would anybody even need a store then?

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Post by m0ngr31 »

wlesieutre wrote: post #28
sylens wrote: post #22

The current state of the Windows Store is a holdover from the early 2010's where "number of apps in our app store" became a huge KPI and something for the CEO to tout to the board of directors. Apple and Google kept bragging about these numbers at their respective developer conferences/yearly refresh unveilings and therefore Microsoft was all too happy to accept any and all apps into the Windows Store at the time in…

Not just bragging about it, Microsoft was paying people to submit software to pump that number up: > In a new US marketing effort, Microsoft is offering developers $100 per app for newly published applications submitted to the Windows Phone Store or the Windows Store by June 30th. Developers can net $2,000 in total by submitting up to 10 apps to each store. https://www.theverge.com/2013/3/19/4124548/microsoft-paying-…

Back in the Windows Phone days, they'd send you a phone for developing an app. I wrote a crappy calculator app during a CS class and got a free phone out of it.

I spent more time doing the app submission than I did writing the app. They didn't care what it was. Similarly Blackberry had a similar program a little while later where I just ported the same app and got a Playbook tablet.

It was fun as a poor college kid, but look where it got both of them.

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

wlesieutre wrote: post #28
sylens wrote: post #22

The current state of the Windows Store is a holdover from the early 2010's where "number of apps in our app store" became a huge KPI and something for the CEO to tout to the board of directors. Apple and Google kept bragging about these numbers at their respective developer conferences/yearly refresh unveilings and therefore Microsoft was all too happy to accept any and all apps into the Windows Store at the time in…

Not just bragging about it, Microsoft was paying people to submit software to pump that number up: > In a new US marketing effort, Microsoft is offering developers $100 per app for newly published applications submitted to the Windows Phone Store or the Windows Store by June 30th. Developers can net $2,000 in total by submitting up to 10 apps to each store. https://www.theverge.com/2013/3/19/4124548/microsoft-paying-…

At a developer conference around that time they showed us step-by-step how to build several simple apps and then encouraged us to make our own variations of those apps to submit to the Windows Store. I remember thinking it was doomed to look as sad as the Blackberry app store.

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Post by geerlingguy »

m0ngr31 wrote: post #33
wlesieutre wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just bragging about it, Microsoft was paying people to submit software to pump that number up: > In a new US marketing effort, Microsoft is offering developers $100 per app for newly published applications submitted to the Windows Phone Store or the Windows Store by June 30th. Developers can net $2,000 in total by submitting up to 10 apps to each store. https://www.theverge.com/2013/3/19/4124548/microsoft-paying-…

Back in the Windows Phone days, they'd send you a phone for developing an app. I wrote a crappy calculator app during a CS class and got a free phone out of it. I spent more time doing the app submission than I did writing the app. They didn't care what it was. Similarly Blackberry had a similar program a little while later where I just ported the same app and got a Playbook tablet. It was fun as a poor college kid,…

I remember this period. I remember a few dozen devs I knew just submitted dumb/garbage apps and grabbed the bounty.

Don't think it helped the Windows Phone ecosystem at all because instead of a few decent apps, you now had to wade through hundreds of terrible apps and sometimes you'd get lucky and find a decent one.

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Post by mcny »

m0ngr31 wrote: post #33
wlesieutre wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just bragging about it, Microsoft was paying people to submit software to pump that number up: > In a new US marketing effort, Microsoft is offering developers $100 per app for newly published applications submitted to the Windows Phone Store or the Windows Store by June 30th. Developers can net $2,000 in total by submitting up to 10 apps to each store. https://www.theverge.com/2013/3/19/4124548/microsoft-paying-…

Back in the Windows Phone days, they'd send you a phone for developing an app. I wrote a crappy calculator app during a CS class and got a free phone out of it. I spent more time doing the app submission than I did writing the app. They didn't care what it was. Similarly Blackberry had a similar program a little while later where I just ported the same app and got a Playbook tablet. It was fun as a poor college kid,…

Counterpoint: I got a free Amazon Echo (gen 1 echo, echo dot, echo show) for free by writing a few voice apps. Amazon has so ce cleaned up the lowest effort ones I made.

I could feel the submission process get tighter as time passed. I think the idea was to see what apps people come up with and what gains traction? Kind of like the story where the management lets people on the grass and paves a walkway on the most walked path?

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