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Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

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Re: Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

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You're right - Dendron has a lot of similarities with Obsidian. A lot of our users come from people looking for open source obsidian alternatives. Our main differentiator is our focus on structure - we let users create their own taxonomies using "Dendron schemas" which they can use to both document and change their note hierarchies over time. A big focus in Dendron: how do you continue working with your knowledge bas…

i know why it's not this way, and love what you've built, but find it vaguely dissatisfying that with the structured and hierarchical organization, the URLs don't convey that affordance also decent weight still goes to URL keywords in SERPs (and yes, many to many links to leaves attached more than one place seems a problem, but that's what canonical URLs are for)

we actually have a solution in the works - adding a human friendly URL label followed by the guid (eg. wiki.dendron.so/notes/tutorial-{guid}) server side, we only parse the last component of the url which will be the guid. the reason we don't do this now is because we're focused on making static publishing smooth (most people use github pages to host their dendron sites) before we start on work on the server enhanced solution

Re: Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

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i'm bothered by having my notes locked by a waywall like RR and find using a separate client like obsidian annoyin. this looks like it hits what i'm after. what's the monetization strategy though?

Our beachhead market is to compete with tools like confluence to be the knowledge base for technical teams. To that end, we're building a managed backend for Dendron that will make it possible to sync your notes with teammates, provide a web ui, access control, private notes, and other team features.

More details in our public handbook -> https://handbook.dendron.so/notes/f6d9bc09-04b7-4a02-a6aa-a2...

Re: Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

#73

So a quick glance makes it seem fairly similar to Obsidian... as the docs note, it's built on top of VS Code vs Obsidian which is standalone... What are some reasons Obsidian users would want to switch?

I switched because Obsidian free version is not licensed for commercial use. And I considered paying for it, but then Dendron appeared and I have VS Code installed and I copied my markdown files into that instead.

Re: Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

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obsidian is a great app and they have an excellent mobile client. if you ever want to explore the structural components of Dendron while using Obsidian, you can as we interop on most features

this is a hallmark of good software, and a breath of fresh air to see, given the amount of proprietary lock-in in software today.

This is a huge part of what led me to adopting Dendron (and eventually contributing to and working on the project): the importance of interoperability. Seeing progress being made toward importing docs from Google docs, importing content from GitHub issues, adding other public vaults into my local workspace (like the TL;DR docs seed), etc. were great.

Re: Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

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Congrats on the launch! I've been using Foam [1] for the last year, which is an open-source vscode-powered aternative to obsidian. There seems to be a large overlap in features. What benefits does Dendron have over Foam that would convince me to switch? [1] https://github.com/foambubble/foam/

You're right, there is overlap in the sense that both Dendron and Foam are open source note taking tools based around vscode and markdown. Dendron differs in our focus on structure - while we support backlinks, wikilinks, and tags, the primary way of navigating notes in Dendron is by hierarchy which can be described by schemas (our type system for note hierarchies). We provide extensive tooling around traversing and…

If anyone is interested in more detail on the schema system, I found it documented here : https://wiki.dendron.so/notes/c5e5adde-5459-409b-b34d-a0d75c... after following the link in the parent.

Re: Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

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The most amazing thing about this is that a note-taking app got funded in 2021.

I’d call it a note-structuring app and if you’re amazed at this you’d be shocked to know that Roam Research raised $9M in a seed round with a $200M valuation last year. People spend billions each year on note-taking systems from Evernote to Confluence. YC would be foolish not to spend $125k to be in this space.

Re: Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

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I thought that was to-do apps? But the one you are making a comparison with is not really relevant: that's Apple-only it seems, and that, in itself, is enough incentive to look out for more. Ultimately, market can decide which are needed and which aren't. As for investors like YC, they usually bet into multiple products — while YC might have a better hit rate than some other investors, there are likely still more fai…

I think there's now a blurred line between todo app and knowledge management, especially as tools like notion (and for that matter Dendron), are making it more viable to manage todos within your knowledge base. As for YC, I remember seeing at least two other note taking companies within our winter batch. At AWS, the mentality for new services is to "let 1000 flowers bloom" (and see which one's make it). Something sim…

Definitely agree, though I think that line was always blurry (see Emacs' org-mode originating in 2003, but built on top of outline-mode which is even older), but _now_ might be a good time to approach the wider population with more polished/opinionated (UI-wise) tools.

Re: Launch HN: Dendron (YC W21) – Structured note-taking for developers and teams

#80
I really like your refined positioning and messaging.

We were on the same YC cohort and I have to say, dendron didn't 'speak to me' during the batch. But looking at how you describe yourself now, I think 'yeah, I need that'. Booting up VS-Code and Dendron now.

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