Earlier quoted context omitted.
If a private company can buy the data why shouldn't the government be able to? The real solution is to not allow the data to be sold to anyone.
Private companies (theoretically/ideally) don't have the power of life and death over you
The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people
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#22I'm curious what the overall take will be on this. Normally, this action would be frowned upon if it was a private company, but I'm assuming that people may be more open to it being done by Treasury because it's "for the societal good".
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#23This is not a new take, but I think "the west" is effectively building their own version of China's social credit. It's just distributed among a range of private companies and accessed via subpoena or contract. The fact that the government doesn't operate most of it directly is largely irrelevant to those negatively affected by it and in some ways makes the situation worse (who do you even contact to correct inaccura…
Second thing : "Credit score is really important".
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#24Publish everything found, see if the laws are then changed...
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
If a private company can buy the data why shouldn't the government be able to? The real solution is to not allow the data to be sold to anyone.
Private companies (theoretically/ideally) don't have the power of life and death over you
The idea that businesses (whether public or private) can't hurt me or my family is absurd.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher-Price#Rock_'n_Play_reca...
[2] https://www.consumerreports.org/water-contamination/how-frac...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sackler_family#Opioid_lawsuits
Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people
#26I'm curious what the overall take will be on this. Normally, this action would be frowned upon if it was a private company, but I'm assuming that people may be more open to it being done by Treasury because it's "for the societal good".
Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it. I wish there was the ability to make a poll: * This is fine, privacy is dead. * This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government * This is okay because the government is using…
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#27I'm curious what the overall take will be on this. Normally, this action would be frowned upon if it was a private company, but I'm assuming that people may be more open to it being done by Treasury because it's "for the societal good".
Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it. I wish there was the ability to make a poll: * This is fine, privacy is dead. * This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government * This is okay because the government is using…
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#28We need a Supreme Court ruling or law that says if the government doesn’t have a warrant to collect your data, they also can’t buy it from third parties. We also need privacy protections so these companies wouldn’t exist in the first place.
Unlike private actors, governmental actors are publicly constrained in their actions and representatives of the will of our society.
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#29This is not a new take, but I think "the west" is effectively building their own version of China's social credit. It's just distributed among a range of private companies and accessed via subpoena or contract. The fact that the government doesn't operate most of it directly is largely irrelevant to those negatively affected by it and in some ways makes the situation worse (who do you even contact to correct inaccura…
China's social credit system allegedly assigns (or will assign?) all citizens scores and punishes them for social wrongdoings. The IRS has always been tasked with auditing and catching tax cheats, the Treasury always went after people who violate economic sanctions. What's the similarity other than data collection?
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it. I wish there was the ability to make a poll: * This is fine, privacy is dead. * This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government * This is okay because the government is using…
Can we...can we have at least one "not okay" option that doesn't brand everyone involved as evil?