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The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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I'm curious what the overall take will be on this. Normally, this action would be frowned upon if it was a private company, but I'm assuming that people may be more open to it being done by Treasury because it's "for the societal good".

Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it.

I wish there was the ability to make a poll:

* This is fine, privacy is dead.

* This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government

* This is okay because the government is using this data to enforce laws I believe in, even though it rewards private data merchants.

* Everyone involved is evil, the contracts should be voided and the companies dissolved.

Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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I'm curious what the overall take will be on this. Normally, this action would be frowned upon if it was a private company, but I'm assuming that people may be more open to it being done by Treasury because it's "for the societal good".

Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it. I wish there was the ability to make a poll: * This is fine, privacy is dead. * This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government * This is okay because the government is using…

If you want to politicize any issue at all it must become a zero sum prisoners dilemma where I enjoy the benefits and the dreaded "other" is annihilated.

Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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post #2

I'm curious what the overall take will be on this. Normally, this action would be frowned upon if it was a private company, but I'm assuming that people may be more open to it being done by Treasury because it's "for the societal good".

Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it. I wish there was the ability to make a poll: * This is fine, privacy is dead. * This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government * This is okay because the government is using…

https://strawpoll.com/a584xf5re

Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it. I wish there was the ability to make a poll: * This is fine, privacy is dead. * This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government * This is okay because the government is using…

https://strawpoll.com/a584xf5re

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Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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post #3
post #2

I'm curious what the overall take will be on this. Normally, this action would be frowned upon if it was a private company, but I'm assuming that people may be more open to it being done by Treasury because it's "for the societal good".

Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it. I wish there was the ability to make a poll: * This is fine, privacy is dead. * This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government * This is okay because the government is using…

There's also

* The data collection is fine, but the government shouldn't be allowed to circumvent checks and balances by buying this data

* The government using such data without warrant is fine, but it shouldn't be sold on the open market

Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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We need a Supreme Court ruling or law that says if the government doesn’t have a warrant to collect your data, they also can’t buy it from third parties.

We also need privacy protections so these companies wouldn’t exist in the first place.

Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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This is not a new take, but I think "the west" is effectively building their own version of China's social credit. It's just distributed among a range of private companies and accessed via subpoena or contract. The fact that the government doesn't operate most of it directly is largely irrelevant to those negatively affected by it and in some ways makes the situation worse (who do you even contact to correct inaccurate information?).

Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people

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post #2

I'm curious what the overall take will be on this. Normally, this action would be frowned upon if it was a private company, but I'm assuming that people may be more open to it being done by Treasury because it's "for the societal good".

Funny, I assume the exact opposite. I'm guessing many people oppose government data collection but because they are buying data on the open market from people who "opt in", they're okay with it. I wish there was the ability to make a poll: * This is fine, privacy is dead. * This is okay because of private companies collecting and selling the data, even to the government * This is okay because the government is using…

* It’s much more urgent to address how private companies use the data, since we at least have some visibility into what the government is doing with it.
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