Live data from Hacker News

What happens to used electric car batteries?

wired.com

11–20 of 84 posts

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#11

Used batteries will be big business: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29090924 I'm also willing to bet that this will become a high value item for property theft.

I don't see any way to steal electric car battery without actually stealing the car. Its big, heavy, scary (and actually dangerous), and highly integrated with the car

People don’t seem to have any issues stealing 600lb motorcycles

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see any way to steal electric car battery without actually stealing the car. Its big, heavy, scary (and actually dangerous), and highly integrated with the car

People don’t seem to have any issues stealing 600lb motorcycles

600lb motorcycles aren’t usually integrated internally into a several tone vehicle and mostly don’t discharge high voltage dc into anyone trying to steal them.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#13
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see any way to steal electric car battery without actually stealing the car. Its big, heavy, scary (and actually dangerous), and highly integrated with the car

Unless the car is designed for fast battery swaps. It's still a big heavy item to steal, but it's conceivable to drop it on a skate and hoist it into a van.

When I first read the top-level comment I initially thought the same thing.

After reading your comment I'm thinking that we'll eventually see start seeing YouTube videos crop up of three guys with sawzalls and angle grinders cut out a battery onto a skateboard and hoist it into the back of a truck in minutes.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#14
post #10

We need legislation immediately which requires that all new batteries are designed and made to be disassembled for recycling both easily and cheaply. Do it now, while the industry is ramping up so the costs can be built into the system. Also, every battery that is produced should have a serial number on it. These are not things that can just be dumped in a hole and forgotten. The manufacturer of that battery should b…

> Side note: You know those Tide Pod plastic buckets? Those are recyclable. The refill bags of pods, however, are made of a plastic that is not recyclable - so you buy the bag to create less waste and actually end up creating more. Are those buckets recyclable as in "stamped with the recycling symbol" or "actually will get recycled if you drop it in the recycling bin"? I've heard that most plastics, recyclable or not…

I actually just looked it up, and it's even more complicated, of course... From their website:

• The tub is recyclable. Please ensure that your area's recycling programs support the recycling of this type of container.

• The lid component is recyclable only in the few communities that have recycling programs for this type of material.

• The bag is not recyclable.

https://pgconsumersupport.secure.force.com/CarehubStandalone...

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#15
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Side note: You know those Tide Pod plastic buckets? Those are recyclable. The refill bags of pods, however, are made of a plastic that is not recyclable - so you buy the bag to create less waste and actually end up creating more. Are those buckets recyclable as in "stamped with the recycling symbol" or "actually will get recycled if you drop it in the recycling bin"? I've heard that most plastics, recyclable or not…

I actually just looked it up, and it's even more complicated, of course... From their website: • The tub is recyclable. Please ensure that your area's recycling programs support the recycling of this type of container. • The lid component is recyclable only in the few communities that have recycling programs for this type of material. • The bag is not recyclable. https://pgconsumersupport.secure.force.com/CarehubStan…

The tub is very realistically user reusable, at least once.

Both the tub and the bag have less carbon footprint than a cotton bag, glass container, or metal tin. Likely less than transporting liquid detergent (though more than powder in cardboard)

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#16

Used batteries will be big business: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29090924 I'm also willing to bet that this will become a high value item for property theft.

I don't see any way to steal electric car battery without actually stealing the car. Its big, heavy, scary (and actually dangerous), and highly integrated with the car

Definitely not the current versions of batteries but those will drop in size over a short period of time. Maybe instead of stealing the battery itself the energy from it would be illegitimately transferred off ... "siphoned off" if you will

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually just looked it up, and it's even more complicated, of course... From their website: • The tub is recyclable. Please ensure that your area's recycling programs support the recycling of this type of container. • The lid component is recyclable only in the few communities that have recycling programs for this type of material. • The bag is not recyclable. https://pgconsumersupport.secure.force.com/CarehubStan…

The tub is very realistically user reusable, at least once. Both the tub and the bag have less carbon footprint than a cotton bag, glass container, or metal tin. Likely less than transporting liquid detergent (though more than powder in cardboard)

The tub has to be thoroughly cleaned, and even then you shouldn't store food in it because of the detergents possibly permeating the plastic. I read this in an article about repurposing the tubs as Jack-o'-lanterns for Halloween.

Anyways, what's your point? They could use cardboard just as easily. And that still doesn't excuse plastics being used today that are non recyclable.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#19

These articles are insane, 10min in until you get to the part of what happens to used batteries. I’m really thinking the media business model is totally broken for these authors to not go straight to the point

It's long form (although somewhat short for that). Consider yourself lucky that this article even has a descriptive title and gets around to addressing it at some point in the body. A lot of long form journalism is just a click-bait title with rambling.

Personally, I think long-form writers need to start including abstracts. If I'm going to spend half an hour reading something, I'd like to know what it's about before I commit the time. If no abstract seems adequate to capture the breadth of a long form article's ramblings, then it lacks focus and should be revised.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

#20

These articles are insane, 10min in until you get to the part of what happens to used batteries. I’m really thinking the media business model is totally broken for these authors to not go straight to the point

I do wonder sometimes if at least some articles are so long just to be able to fit more ad banners within a single article.

I turned off the content blocker and counted 6 ads within the length of this article.

Post reply on HN