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What happens to used electric car batteries?

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Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

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We need legislation immediately which requires that all new batteries are designed and made to be disassembled for recycling both easily and cheaply. Do it now, while the industry is ramping up so the costs can be built into the system.

Also, every battery that is produced should have a serial number on it. These are not things that can just be dumped in a hole and forgotten. The manufacturer of that battery should be responsible for it from the day it's made to the day it's recycled.

Side note: You know those Tide Pod plastic buckets? Those are recyclable. The refill bags of pods, however, are made of a plastic that is not recyclable - so you buy the bag to create less waste and actually end up creating more. This is the sort of stupidity that shouldn't be legally allowed in the future.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

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Used batteries will be big business: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29090924 I'm also willing to bet that this will become a high value item for property theft.

Unlike a catalytic converter which is lightweight and easy to steal, the battery of an EV is neither. Heck, even a PHEV like the Prius has a battery that weighs 150+ lbs. And as the range on these vehicles increase, so too will the weight.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

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We need legislation immediately which requires that all new batteries are designed and made to be disassembled for recycling both easily and cheaply. Do it now, while the industry is ramping up so the costs can be built into the system. Also, every battery that is produced should have a serial number on it. These are not things that can just be dumped in a hole and forgotten. The manufacturer of that battery should b…

The automaker should be responsible for recycling their batteries to allign incentives.

Imagine trying to dissassemble a 20 yo EV battery with rust and salt bridges everywhere and not die in the process.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

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Used batteries will be big business: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29090924 I'm also willing to bet that this will become a high value item for property theft.

I don't see any way to steal electric car battery without actually stealing the car. Its big, heavy, scary (and actually dangerous), and highly integrated with the car

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

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Used batteries will be big business: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29090924 I'm also willing to bet that this will become a high value item for property theft.

I don't see any way to steal electric car battery without actually stealing the car. Its big, heavy, scary (and actually dangerous), and highly integrated with the car

Unless the car is designed for fast battery swaps.

It's still a big heavy item to steal, but it's conceivable to drop it on a skate and hoist it into a van.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

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We need legislation immediately which requires that all new batteries are designed and made to be disassembled for recycling both easily and cheaply. Do it now, while the industry is ramping up so the costs can be built into the system. Also, every battery that is produced should have a serial number on it. These are not things that can just be dumped in a hole and forgotten. The manufacturer of that battery should b…

USA exports used solar panels for disposal in trash dumps 'over there'. The entire lifecycle of electric usage is important and easily overlooked.

Be precise with legislation. For example, some States forbid landfill of whole tires. This led to collection of per-tire disposal fee and the landfills purchasing new wheel loader to scoop whole tires into new shredder which uses new conveyor to pile up the tire shreds. Wheel loader then scoops shreds and sprinkles the shreds into landfill.

Re: What happens to used electric car batteries?

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We need legislation immediately which requires that all new batteries are designed and made to be disassembled for recycling both easily and cheaply. Do it now, while the industry is ramping up so the costs can be built into the system. Also, every battery that is produced should have a serial number on it. These are not things that can just be dumped in a hole and forgotten. The manufacturer of that battery should b…

> Side note: You know those Tide Pod plastic buckets? Those are recyclable. The refill bags of pods, however, are made of a plastic that is not recyclable - so you buy the bag to create less waste and actually end up creating more.

Are those buckets recyclable as in "stamped with the recycling symbol" or "actually will get recycled if you drop it in the recycling bin"? I've heard that most plastics, recyclable or not, are not recycled in practice due to cost, contamination, or lack of demand. (If that's true, then the bag is better than the bucket because it's less plastic.)

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