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Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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jesus people they said they hope it stays: aka socially it becomes normalized. No one is advocating forcing people to wear masks forever.

I very strongly hope that it doesn't become socially normalized.

Hat, sunglasses, mask now recommended for the facial-recognition future.

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.

My guess is that the end game is when the vaccine mandate goes into effect in January. Most people will get vaccinated and those that don't wont and nothing will make them. At that point in time all that could be done has been done and life goes on. Optimally enough will be to grant some form of herd immunity or reducing the spread. I'll just get a booster when I can and go about my life. I have for all intents and p…

> Most people will get vaccinated and those that don't wont and nothing will make them.

I am almost certain they will mandate the vaccination of children 5 and older.

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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> There were six hospitalizations and no deaths among the 607 patients who received Paxlovid within five days of symptom onset, compared to 41 hospitalizations and 10 deaths in the placebo cohort. I know it shouldn't be shocking but it just hit me that being in the control group here is very close to getting a death sentence. I couldn't find it in the article OP shared or the press release, but did the control group…

10 deaths in 600 is not quite a death sentence, in my opinion. And yes, placebo group always gets current standard treatment, it would be rather wrong to do otherwise.

Not a chance I'd like to take

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Incorrect, mRNA COVID vaccination is about reducing symptoms in infected patients. It does absolutely nothing to slow down or stop the spread of COVID.

This is one of the most persistent pieces of misinformation I've seen, especially in the face of clear data. The reduction in transmission rate for the vaccinated is 89%. Even for someone with a breakthrough infection of the more contagious Delta variant being vaccinated means a 63% reduction. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-l...

It's become reflexive whenever people claim it stops transmission because all evidence for it is very very recent, while the claim of stopping transmission started to be used with authority as early as Feb 2021 with absolutely no evidence. Not even Pfizer's press release in 2020 tried to claim they even researched it, let alone had a conclusion, despite people nowadays claiming otherwise.

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Except now we have a federal government which thinks it knows best and will force medical decisions on you.

Yes, the US populace has elected to fund a public health organization which has advised on public health measures since its inception (which is not recent or coincident with Covid-19). You are not forced to take any vaccine, though many (public and private) institutions will require you to do so to participate in their functions (e.g. attending public school, serving in the military, working in hospitals, etc...). In…

This is the trick. Force private companies to force you so that we can technically say we're not forcing you so you should shut-up you walking bio-weapon.

I hope you understand how ridiculous this is.

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This is what being an engineer during WW2 must have been like. Near infinite money and resources, but very tough deadlines

agree, The manhattan project alone was 1% of the US GDP during its most expensive year, that would equate to $230 Billion in today's dollars.

There are still occasionally projects which approach this relative scale today. When Boeing (temporarily) shut down 737 MAX production in early 2020 it was reported that this would reduce US GDP by between 0.3% and 0.6% (depending on the economist doing the calculation), for example.

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Children aren't at risk from Covid at all. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w In the US, 340 children under 17 have died from Covid. Total. During the same period, 187 have died from the flu, and over 51,000 children have died from all causes: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Se... They are more likely to be injured by these vaccines and neurotic parents stuffing them into mas…

"at all"? What? Tons of children end up with post-acute sequelae. Where are people getting this notion that the only possible negative outcome of viral or bacterial infections is death and that that's the only stat we should look at? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7927578/

Where are people getting this notion that the only possible negative outcome of unnecessary vaccination is death and that that's the only stat we should look at?

fixed that for you

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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It’s crazy that money is such a huge incentive. Knowing that a cure for Covid is a potentially $100B market means you throw the kitchen sink at it. Imagine being this lab. Do you think they ever had trouble hiring an assistant? Buying new equipment? Getting bonuses? This environment must be fantastically different from the typical meat grinder of bio R&D.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29120313.

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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So no we have the Pfizer vaccine (which I got) who cuts the risk of both catching the virus and the risk of severe complication by a lot (forgot the number but it's big) and in addition to that we now have Pfizer oral medication that can be given to positive cases and which reduces both hospitalization and death risk by 85%. When can life go back to normal?

Lol, you think life will go back to normal? That's cute. Just like how airport security went back to normal a few years after 9/11? The powers of the world are not going to let this pandemic go to waste. There's a lot of money to be made and a lot of freedoms to be trampled.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It makes discussions predictable, tedious, and nasty.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've been posting like this a lot. Can you please stop that? It's not what this site is for, we ban such accounts, and I don't want to ban you. If you'd please review the guidelines and fix this, we'd appreciate it.

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