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Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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I don't think it's fair to say that it's just money. There's also a global crisis and a huge need for such a drug.

Well hopefully money serves as a tool for prioritizing resources for important problems. Seems to be working well in this case.

The added incentive is survival of the species.

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Therefore how can you trust this drug? Follow the money! It’s just big science trying to propagate a pandemic to make more money! If this sounds insane, we’ll ok just reflecting the common anti vax sentiments I hear on this web site (ugh).

Every business exists to make money, the same with most people.

So no business can exist that seeks something other than money? Non-profits and not-for-profits are not businesses?

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.

When hospitalization rates are down. In many metro areas the ICU are still full of un-vaccinated COVID patients, which means people with normal emergencies can't get a bed. Thus, COVID precautions are necessary to reduce the rate of infection to levels that do not overwhelm the healthcare system. And all those areas that have "returned to normal" are sending their COVID patients to regions that are still masking beca…

In the US the nation-wide ICU vacancy is down to pre-pandemic levels. There may be anecdotes of individual hospitals that have a lot of COVID patients in ICU, but it's simply not true that this is a wide spread problem.

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Bay area (note that there are additional criteria): https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/article/Bay-Area-mask-man...

Does LA County have anything like this? I haven't been able to find it.

Just eight Bay area counties ("San Francisco, Alameda, Santa Clara, San Mateo, Contra Costa, Marin, Sonoma and Napa" from https://www.sfgate.com/bay-area-politics/article/Bay-Area-ma...; Solano is not included as they have chosen not to reinstate a mask mandate)

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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I though most of the point of vaxing children and other low-risk groups is to stop the spread, not for their own individual safety. Reducing the chance they'll infect grandma. And reducing the circulating pool of infections to prevent more virulent strains from developing. Have I got this wrong?

I think Delta is still above r0 1 in vaccinated. Delta plus is worse. So there will be spread amongst vaccinated. Not as much as unvaccinated but with vaccinated conditioned to think they are safe I don't see it solving much in the medium to longer term. A high population of vaccinated is mathematically more likely to produce more virulent strains with a non sterile vaccine in a fast mutating virus.

> A high population of vaccinated is mathematically more likely to produce more virulent strains with a non sterile vaccine in a fast mutating virus.

Not so. Lots of cases produce worse variants, not vaccines.

https://theconversation.com/massive-numbers-of-new-covid-19-...

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Is probably just a large dose of vitamin D with other inert ingredients making it patentable. Vitamin D has already had research showing same results but you can't patent Vitamin D alone.

Why would you say this without doing any research or looking into this at all?

Why just assume this and post it as if your opinion on what it COULD be without even reading a little bit about it has any value?

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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This is a good article. I'm firmly on team do-what-it-takes-to-stop-the-spread, but no one has an exit strategy. I got a booster and we have appointments for two of our three kids to get there first shot. By mid-December I'm hoping to not have to think much about it anymore. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/what-amer...

You mean you're going to skip the rest of the boosters they'll want you to get each quarter forever?

Not what I said. I, and my whole family, get flu shots every year. I wouldn't mind also getting one for covid if it is determined to help me and my community.

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Prions are "just" proteins that should get broken down by the body. But they don't, and they cause ‎Creutzfeldt-Jakob in over 10 years after ingesting.

It's a good thing we're all here on HN to question the safety of novel pharmaceuticals. If we weren't, maybe nobody would, and we'd all just be putting prions into ourselves. If you have something specific about this particular molecule to talk about vis a vis safety, that's an interesting comment to make. But "aspirin is a molecule but so is Mad Cow Disease so we had better be careful about new drugs" is just about…

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