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Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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I conjecture that companies will start to open up the executive suites to "democratic" means - employees voting for projects, and eventually voting for executives with political packages. Somehow this will be aligned with shareholder voting.

It's that or it becomes so frictionless to move from one company to another it won't be worth voting.

But I don't see people just leaving activism at home ...

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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It’s hard to think of a country in the Middle East with more rights and freedoms or a better human rights record. I know I’ll get a lot of downvotes for saying that, but what I’d like is an objective measure on which another country in the area beats Israel

At this point Israel is part of shitty American partisan politics. No one thinks on their own. Original thinking is also prohibited by both parties, but mostly by the one that I voted for. I regret voting for them but the other option is worse.

Maybe to Americans it is. To everyone else, including Israelis themselves, it's a completely separate entity.

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Nowadays I take a look at the person's Twitter after reading their resume, just to see if they'd be more trouble than they're worth. I've passed on several candidates over the past few years because of the utterly imbecilic stuff they posted online. Why Google is not doing the same is a mystery to me. They already run background checks, and political affiliation, for better or worse, is not a protected class. Go be a…

this is actively harmful for a democratic society. Raising your voice is the way to influence societies action. The economy is part of society and governed by its rules and thoughts. There would be no environmental laws without environmental activist, civil rights laws without civil rights activist etc. Ignoring this means ignoring the political side of you economic actions, but companies don't operate in a politically neutral space. The moment you work with a government you support it, which is a political act.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point Israel is part of shitty American partisan politics. No one thinks on their own. Original thinking is also prohibited by both parties, but mostly by the one that I voted for. I regret voting for them but the other option is worse.

Maybe to Americans it is. To everyone else, including Israelis themselves, it's a completely separate entity.

Mate, we're talking about Google.

Edit: Google employees are largely based in US and I am talking about the zeigeist of what Israel means to most of these employees. They know zilch about Israel but have made up their partisan minds.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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The article doesn’t really explain exactly what the project is. Anyone know?

It's just another public cloud project similar to what Big Cloud already have in China, Germany, India etc.

Israeli government IT providers will be able to use Google and Amazon cloud services but with the data physically located in Israel.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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It’s hard to think of a country in the Middle East with more rights and freedoms or a better human rights record. I know I’ll get a lot of downvotes for saying that, but what I’d like is an objective measure on which another country in the area beats Israel

Rights and freedoms for whom?

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Google, Amazon etc. already have contracts with other authoritarian governments like Qatar, Singapore, India and Indonesia. So what is the problem with cooperating with Israel?

Who the fck thinks india has authoritarian govt ? India has multiple news portals being harshly critical of govt 24x7 and enjoying viewership, ads and even govt ads. Is that a feature of one ? Which echo chamber news source you are referring ?

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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post #6

It’s hard to think of a country in the Middle East with more rights and freedoms or a better human rights record. I know I’ll get a lot of downvotes for saying that, but what I’d like is an objective measure on which another country in the area beats Israel

Yeah israel has a great human rights record if you ignore their treatment of palestinians and other minorities.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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post #3

Nowadays I take a look at the person's Twitter after reading their resume, just to see if they'd be more trouble than they're worth. I've passed on several candidates over the past few years because of the utterly imbecilic stuff they posted online. Why Google is not doing the same is a mystery to me. They already run background checks, and political affiliation, for better or worse, is not a protected class. Go be a…

Maybe it's just work for you but other people take pride in the impact and consequences that their work brings about. Such people are obviously going to be upset about a contract with the Israel government. Though I don't know how they are okay working for a company that basically shows advertisements to people.

In that case, Mountain View is full of other software corporations that will gladly take an ex-Googler. There isn't even an informal monopoly on employment there.

Of course, the compensation may be lower elsewhere.

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