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Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Love it how basic and down to earth his ad is.

But he uses the same tricks as everyone else. I only heard a few statements, one that immediately caught in my filter: "seven out of every ten moves are leaving the state" -- which is a meaningless metric if left by itself like in the video, unless you know what is normal, and also how many are moving in?

Moves can only be in, out, or within.

7 out of 10 out means 3 = #in + #within.

Maybe it is normal for most moves to be out of NJ, but who's to say that normal is good?

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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It doesnt help that democrats paint anyone who finds this stuff obnoxious as republicans- they are alienating the largest constituent in America- independents.

First off, not a democrat. Secondly, Republicans concretely instrumented and benefited from the CRT media moral panic. Not "painting" anyone, simply stating facts. https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-inquiry/how-a-conse...

My comment was about democrats on the whole (and republicans) making it an us vs. them thing, not you personally.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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What do you want, a source that literally uses the term "oppression"? Does CRT not posit that all inequities in our society are a result of white supremacist oppression? Is the point of privilege not to imply that those who have it must forgo equal treatment in order to correct for historical oppression? And if white boys fail to do enough to combat this white supremacist, oppressive system, is the implication not th…

> Does CRT not posit that all inequities in our society are a result of white supremacist oppression? No, it does not. > Maybe public schools are under attack because CRT inspired doctrine is offensive to parents of white males Public schools have been under attack by conservatives since they were first created. > Again, if you are accusing white boys of inheriting privilege from an oppressive white supremacist syste…

>CRT scholars view race and white supremacy as an intersectional social construct[7] that advances the interests of white people[11] at the expense of persons of other races

I feel like you're playing a game of sophistry when you try to suggest that this isn't equivalent to blaming inequities on white supremacy. And when all of the outreach efforts are almost exclusively aimed at white people, when all of the "dismantling" comes almost exclusively in the form of shaming or forcing whites to abdicate power that is claimed to be unearned, then it doesn't matter how cleverly CRT is defined in polite conversation; in practice it's dishonest to suggest that white supremacy is the problem, white people are the practicioners, white people must effectively pay the price (by ceding their "privilege"), but somehow CRT isn't actually about blaming white people for racism.

It's also telling (and convenient) that all of this talk of racism falls exclusively into the category of white on minority racism, lending credence to the vicious lie that only white people can be racist.

And for some reason the loudest voices in the field (e.g. deangelo, kendi) explicitly and solely demonize white people and white culture. It doesn't matter how carefully you attempt to deflect from what CRT "really is" when it is so trivially and ubiquitously weaponized against whites in a petty, revenge seeking powergrab. When it is only white men who are expected to attend Kafkaesque reeducation seminars and apologize for their "whiteness". There is no excuse, no suitable apologism, no clever deflection that can hide what CRT is in theory, because there is always one inevitable application in practice, and this blatant, toxic anti white sentiment is fundamentally the essence of CRT. And that is why it has no business influencing what children are learning in school.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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> The reasonable asks: a facemask indoors in public, and a vaccine. Those are not reasonable. You may think they are, but there are obviously people who disagree. Also, the vaccine and masks may have been a reasonable ask , but it is not a reasonable mandate! Once mandates started kicking in, and politicians started saying "The voluntary phase is over" while not following their own rules, then they became unreasonabl…

Which ones? We used masks during the Spanish Flu. That’s the other biggest pandemic. We don’t really have any others that compare.

We used masks during the Spanish Flu until politicians were caught not using masks.

Also, the Hong Kong Flu might be close to COVID in per capita deaths.

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The vast majority of elected offices in the United States are unpaid.

I don't think you know what you're talking about, as evidenced by your failure to follow up with citations. In any case, the office he's running for IS paid. So what exactly is your point? That other elected offices are unpaid? Who cares? One reason to pay them (not that it works very well) is to make them less susceptible to bribery. In some Third World countries, it's expected that government officials will supplem…

I don't think you know what you're talking about, as evidenced by your failure to follow up with citations

Fortunately, I'm not all that concerned about what some rando on HN thinks. As for the citation, what's the proper form for citing common knowledge, basic math, and high school civics classes?

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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What do you want, a source that literally uses the term "oppression"? Does CRT not posit that all inequities in our society are a result of white supremacist oppression? Is the point of privilege not to imply that those who have it must forgo equal treatment in order to correct for historical oppression? And if white boys fail to do enough to combat this white supremacist, oppressive system, is the implication not th…

> Does CRT not posit that all inequities in our society are a result of white supremacist oppression? No, it does not. > Maybe public schools are under attack because CRT inspired doctrine is offensive to parents of white males Public schools have been under attack by conservatives since they were first created. > Again, if you are accusing white boys of inheriting privilege from an oppressive white supremacist syste…

>No, they are participating in an oppressive system. If they were not aware of its oppressive nature, it would be hard to fault them.

Shaming children with accusations of privilege and taking away opportunities from them based on the color of their skin is effectively faulting them.

>The purpose of efforts to introduce a more honest educational overview of our country's history with racism

There was nothing insufficiently honest about how we were taught about slavery, racism, and jim crow. What is dishonest is overemphasizing these past transgressions as though they are the most important lessons for white kids to learn. What is dishonest is, in practice, teaching white kids to be ashamed of their heritage, forbidding them from taking or expressing pride in their history by focusing so exclusively on the negative, and overtly blaming whiteness and white culture while simultaneously pretending that this isn't equivalent to blaming white people.

If an ideology is so trivially and ubiquitously corruptible then there is a problem with the ideology. And this is obvious given that, as a critical theory, it is explicitly designed for the sole purpose of exploring the interaction between so called white supremacy and social outcomes. As a college level elective it may be justifiable to teach; as a tool in primary school classrooms it is exclusively a vehicle for anti-white indoctrination and, frankly, your dishonest apologism is offensive to me.

And apparently also to so many of the parents who are being slandered as merely opposing it because Fox told them to; I have part white nephews. I hear what they are being taught in school. I hear how they are being effectively blamed and expected to act for the sins of past people who shared their skin color. I recognize what kind of effect this sort of toxic, racist rhetoric will have on the self esteem of young white boys. And if you listen to great intellectuals like DeAngelo and Kendi, that is the purpose: to knock whitey down a peg. Nothing good can come of this.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Does anybody know how he ran his campaign/how campaigns are run in general? I genuinely do not know how people "campaign". Do you just hire people to walk around and knock on doors, Jehovah's Witness style?

There's probably more "official" ways, but you're allowed to do whatever you want to get people's attention, within election laws.

I met a guy disc golfing once who got like, 10% of the vote for a state district senate seat just by getting his name on the ballot. Then he went and shook a bunch of hands and talked to people _at_ the election place to get people to vote for him (against the election laws xD) though people did.

You just need to be known. Tape poorly made signs everywhere, shake hands, go on local TV. A local judge got elected who was mostly unknown save for a very popular local Christian television channel and the news did a story on her cause she just never showed up to serve and they couldn't boot her out.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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> how NJ got into this predicament? Possibly due to attitudes like describing an average citizen beating a career politician as “a predicament”

It's not that he's an "average citizen" that's objectionable, it's that, based on quotes posted in other sub-threads and the campaign video that someone posted, he ran on an anti-mask, anti-lockdown, COVID-downplaying platform and won. The question is how did NJ get into this predicament where people with these views are winning elections? I can see this happening in Mississippi or something, but New Jersey?

I dont think you realize how unpopular the masks and lockdowns are among people. Especially when it comes to kids being masked.

I believe the platform for the right has consolidated to - ending mask/lockdown/mandate - letting parents have a voice in their children's school agendas - making fun of runaway inflation

This is going to be difficult to run against, in many states besides "Mississippi".

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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In theory, it’s possible for Texas to split into any number of States. I wouldn’t put money on it.

> In theory, it’s possible for Texas to split into any number of States. Such a theory (this really refers to the Texas-specific 5 state theory upthread; your “any number” theory, which presumably is the same theory that applies to any State, is valid, but not unilateral like the 5-state theory) exists, but it requires starting with a dubious interpretation of the act annexing Texas, and then flatly ignoring the act…

What I’m getting at is that it’s one of those things that is unlikely to ever be tested and likely won’t come up because Texans aren’t chomping at the bit to split their State up. Greater Idaho is more likely and that would require three State legislatures and an Act of Congress to make happen.

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A "Republican" who has previous run as a Democrat and has voted for Democrats in all recent presidential elections. This says less about any shift in the electorate than it does about the extremism of the Seattle left.

I think you're underselling the accomplishment. Most people tend to vote party lines regardless of how bad their candidate is. I've seen it personally with family members and friends, even if they are under investigation for corruption. Usually in deep red/blue states the other party is normally very moderate.

For some reason this reminds me of John Ashcroft, among other things, the only US senator to ever lose an election to a dead opponent.
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