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Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by consumer451 »

voz_ wrote: post #272
psadauskas wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should watch last weekend's episode of Last Week Tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liptMbjF3EE

No thank you. He is the tucker carlson of the left. I try to stay away from talking heads that remove all nuance from the debate.

> He is the tucker carlson of the left

That is quite an interesting claim. Do you mean because they are leading voices on their supposed political side, or they are equivalent in factual accuracy, or something else?

My favorite factoid about Tucker Carson, the leading voice of news analysis in the USA:

> Now comes the claim that you can't expect to literally believe the words that come out of Carlson's mouth. And that assertion is not coming from Carlson's critics. It's being made by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York and by Fox News's own lawyers in defending Carlson against accusations of slander. It worked, by the way. [0]

I am up to this point unaware of anything clearly nonfactual presented by Oliver. If anything from Oliver exists along the lines of Carlson's extraordinary list of lies [1] I would genuinely be interested to learn about it.

I wrote a lot there, but my main question is, how exactly do you see Carlson and Oliver as equivalent?

[0] https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-...

[1] https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=tucker-c...

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by joecot »

nostromo wrote: post #192
Erik816 wrote: post #101

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A "Republican" who has previous run as a Democrat and has voted for Democrats in all recent presidential elections. This says less about any shift in the electorate than it does about the extremism of the Seattle left.

I agree that Seattle is a little bonkers, but I disagree that this isn’t a larger shift. NJ and Virginia governorships were both supposed to be easy wins for incumbent Democrats. So far, one has lost and one is too close to call.

Phil Murphy ran for governor of NJ essentially on the promise of legal recreational weed. He did so beating out the NJ Democratic Machine, lead by the Norcross family.

Knowing that weed was Murphy's #1 campaign promise, the NJ Democrat machine did everything they could to bring it to a halt. That was lead by Senate president Steve Sweeney. Eventually weed was legalized via referendum, but they're still slow walking dispensaries. And I'm guessing weed was not the only thing they slow walked him on.

As a result, Murphy's election was painfully close, and Sweeney lost to this guy who paid $153 for his campaign.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by PKop »

ryandrake wrote: post #293
rlt wrote: post #20

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> how NJ got into this predicament? Possibly due to attitudes like describing an average citizen beating a career politician as “a predicament”

It's not that he's an "average citizen" that's objectionable, it's that, based on quotes posted in other sub-threads and the campaign video that someone posted, he ran on an anti-mask, anti-lockdown, COVID-downplaying platform and won. The question is how did NJ get into this predicament where people with these views are winning elections? I can see this happening in Mississippi or something, but New Jersey?

Because masks and lockdowns go against their interests, and they oppose people like you mandating these policies on them. It's just that simple.

And the numbers of these people is much much larger than you're aware of, likely for reasons of media bias hiding this information from you and geographic diversity of political views and values.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by omegaworks »

twofornone wrote: post #370
omegaworks wrote: post #353

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> It wasn't Republicans who thought it a good idea to constantly tell white schoolboys that they are "oppressors". Show me who's constantly telling white schoolboys they are oppressors and not that they are protected[1] by every institution we have[2]? It's an entirely invented self-victimization. 1. https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/stanford-ra... 2. https://www.wymt.com/2020/08/28/nick-sandmann-joins…

I don't think you can make a good faith claim that straight white boys are being "protected by every institution we have" in the age of diversity quotas, gifted program elimination, affirmative action in college applications...etc You can pretend that all of this is justified because of so called privilege, but ultimately you are also discriminating against white boys who are potentially underprivileged for a multitu…

Again, you can't seem to point me at anyone telling white schoolboys they are oppressors.

Public schooling, one of the few institutions that actually values and reaches Appalachian folks[1], has been under attack by exactly the forces behind the latest "critical race theory" boogeyman. If you actually gave a damn about folks in poverty you wouldn't be shilling for the latest fad attack on schools, the list of which you've nicely outlined.

1. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/06/us/west-virginia-teachers...

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Post by rsj_hn »

omegaworks wrote: post #366
rsj_hn wrote: post #357

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You don't know what's going on in schools? Or have you just internalized this oppression narrative so much that you don't think there is any reason to oppose it? "Teachers who had light skin were placed into a “white caucus” group and asked to “remember” that we are “White” and “to take responsibility for [our] power and privilege.” D-E’s racial segregation of educators, aimed at leading us to rethink of ourselves as…

The whole charade falls apart when you actually read what is being passed off as controversial "Critical Race Theory." The CT Mirror article mentions schools are doing utterly banal things like actually discussing Reconstruction and including more diverse authors in their reading lists. As for the Moms For Liberty, just look at the books they're trying to ban: "'Martin Luther King Jr. and the March on Washington' and…

So you discount the testimony of teachers because youtube has an algorithm, and you discount the oppression narrative quotes because you label the source as "astroturf" and you discount the actual school materials leaked by whistleblowers because -- oh that one was ignored.

Look, I get the strategy of smearing whoever provides information as a way of ignoring the provided data. I just don't understand why you think this strategy is a legitimate form of debate -- it's not.

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Post by busymom0 »

mrverify wrote: post #356
busymom0 wrote: post #277

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I am originally from India.

Hmm. Doesn't India have severe gun laws? Why aren't women safer in India yet?

India has extreme gun control laws unfortunately. If you are rich or politically connected, you can own guns or have bodyguards in India. Most people don't have that luxury there. Going through the process and it costs more than the average Indian's annual salary. Carrying guns in public places in most of India is prohibited.

At least in the US, you can afford one fairly easily as long as your background check passes.

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Post by fomine3 »

irthomasthomas wrote: post #258
VRay wrote: post #59

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https://covid19.healthdata.org/japan?view=daily-deaths&tab=t... Basically no lockdown other than shutting down bars at 8 PM, plenty of exposure between proximity to China and super-crowded trains The difference between Japan and the USA is their ubiquitous mask use We went on a 20 year jihad over a single 9/11's worth of preventable deaths in the USA, and yet we can't be bothered to take any action when we're racking…

Are you serious? Japan has THE HIGHEST life expectancy in the world! And America is ranked 34. Maybe your source isn't very honest, if they failed to point this out? https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/japan-life-expectancy

Higher elderly population means people tend to die due to covid.

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Post by skinnymuch »

voz_ wrote: post #272
psadauskas wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should watch last weekend's episode of Last Week Tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liptMbjF3EE

No thank you. He is the tucker carlson of the left. I try to stay away from talking heads that remove all nuance from the debate.

I’d be interested in you responding to my sibling comment. How are you possibly equating Tucker Carlson and Oliver.

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Post by busymom0 »

qqqwerty wrote: post #285
voz_ wrote: post #137

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The progressive take at the moment is that law and order is evil, better to have cities like SF where criminal thugs punch sweet old asian women in the street and rob them.

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I mean for 5 years the elections were rigged by Russia, anti-kavanaugh protestors stormed the capitol and senate chambers just 2 years before, rioters burnt down churches and built CHAZ in the middle of multiple cities, bailed out by the current VP - all completely encouraged by one side.

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Post by gbronner »

AlbertCory wrote: post #279
post_break wrote: post #77

I find this part hilarious "Durr said he entered the race after being denied a concealed carry permit despite having a clean record." So the state with one of the most strict gun laws burns someone, and now he's probably going to win. I wonder if he's going to start turning screws to get their permit issue laws changed. Did you know in NJ you can not posses hollow point bullets? You can go to jail. 18 months in priso…

"turning screws"??? He's (presumably) going to be a legislator. One of many. He's not an executive, let alone a dictator.

As a legislator, he'll have a very good reason to get a concealed carry permit...
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