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Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by chiefalchemist »

tehjoker wrote: post #274
busymom0 wrote: post #249

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> Explain that to the kids that died At least 9 out of 10 children in the ICUs in North Carolina were obese. https://www.wfae.org/health/2021-09-30/novant-says-9-of-10-c... The iron-fisted one-size-fits-all approach has never been used in medicine and health except COVID.

Nice of you to discard anyone with a health problem.

Perhaps. But if such conditions increase risk why is the government reluctant to promote that fact? What is gained in the lack of honesty and transparency?

Along the same lines, ingoring this differentiator has allowed the gov the take a heavy handed on size fits all approach. If the risk is targeted, why is the loss of rights applied to everyone?

Finally, this approach is now being used to jab the kids.

That isn't justice. In fact - whether anyone agrees or disagree s - it smells like textbook authoritarianism. In that context, we are all discarded.

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Post by adolph »

ajmurmann wrote: post #237
twofornone wrote: post #206

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As I've gotten older I've realized that there's something to be said for the discouraging effect that laws have on certain behaviors. Yes, people are still going to do drugs if they're illegal; but some proportion of the population is less likely to take the risk. Is it enough to justify the drug war? Maybe not. But I don't think it's quite as cut an dry as "legalize all drugs to end drug abuse" or "ban all drugs to…

I recently learned that drugs have become more dangerous and more damaging not due to customer demand, but because of the war on drugs. You need to transport a lot less fentanyl than cocaine for the same effect strength. Meth also had changed to work without ingredients we have banned. This has made meth much more damaging. I wonder what things would look like if we just took the Portugal route. https://www.econtalk.…

Also 100% on the Quinones on Econtalk. Another interesting one for an alternative view to the war-on-drugs/decriminalization dichotomy is CSPI: What's Wrong with the West Coast? with Michael Shellenberger

Michael Shellenberger is an activist and author. He joins the podcast to talk about his book San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities. He discusses debates around homelessness in San Francisco, the ideology driving the homelessness advocacy community, how the West coast differs from the rest of the world in its treatment of mental illness and addiction, and whether there is hope of political change.

https://audioboom.com/posts/7962954-what-s-wrong-with-the-we...

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Post by kelnos »

voz_ wrote: post #130
vkou wrote: post #84

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Seattle has always been a socially liberal, bend-over-backwards for business town. It's how it can legalize marijuana and magic mushrooms, while having 11,000 people living in tents and homeless shelters. Unsurprisingly, since nobody likes seeing tents in city parks, and by the I-5 on-ramps, the city voted for a slate of politicians that will... Maintain the status quo. There's no plan for getting ~5,500 people house…

I don't want status quo, but I also don't want them housed. I want the ones that steal, rape, squat in parks, do drugs, sell drugs, defecate in public, and litter to all be thrown in jail.

That would probably cost taxpayers more (both in the short and long term) than just housing them and getting them mental health services.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

busymom0 wrote: post #288
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #225

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The bit you missed out from that link was: Total firearms: 10,265

I stated "rifle" not all guns. Because saying we need to take away all guns is pie in the sky thinking. Dems run on "taking away AR-15" but the stats show that isn't going to achieve anything. In 2008, there were 800k-3 million defensive uses of guns. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29101364

No, here's what the link you give actually says:

> Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). On the other hand, some scholars point to a radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997). The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field. The estimate of 3 million defensive uses per year is based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys. The former estimate of 108,000 is difficult to interpret because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.

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Post by heavyset_go »

ryandrake wrote: post #293
rlt wrote: post #20

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> how NJ got into this predicament? Possibly due to attitudes like describing an average citizen beating a career politician as “a predicament”

It's not that he's an "average citizen" that's objectionable, it's that, based on quotes posted in other sub-threads and the campaign video that someone posted, he ran on an anti-mask, anti-lockdown, COVID-downplaying platform and won. The question is how did NJ get into this predicament where people with these views are winning elections? I can see this happening in Mississippi or something, but New Jersey?

South Jersey and suburbs all over the state are just as conservative as places to the south or west of it. The CRT moral panic successfully mobilized a lot of suburban voters to get involved in local politics.

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Post by kelnos »

Covzire wrote: post #120
nostromo wrote: post #48

A Republican just won an election in Seattle City Government for the first time in three decades. This election has seen some big shifts in the electorate, even in some deeply-Democratic areas. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/republica...

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Post by adolph »

SirSourdough wrote: post #149
voz_ wrote: post #130

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I don't want status quo, but I also don't want them housed. I want the ones that steal, rape, squat in parks, do drugs, sell drugs, defecate in public, and litter to all be thrown in jail.

And I want people who lack compassion and consideration housed at the bottom of the ocean, but we can't all win.

https://www.slatestarcodexabridged.com/I-Can-Tolerate-Anythi...

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Post by p_j_w »

PKop wrote: post #295
judahmeek wrote: post #83

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You mentioned statistics in another comment of yours, just slightly above this one. Can you show me statistics regarding this "real and obvious risk of psychological and social harm" of children wearing masks?

No, I don't need statistics to understand covering the faces of young children for extended periods is going to harm their social development. Do you disagree that social cues are important, and come from facial expressions? Do you need a study for this? I sure don't. I guess we'll have to see which children have stronger development going forward.. masked or unmasked schools. It's a risk I certainly wouldn't take wi…

>I don't need statistics to understand covering the faces of young children for extended periods is going to harm their social development.

You're literally saying you don't require evidence for your views and trying to frame this as a virtue?

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Post by beerandt »

advrs wrote: post #164
voz_ wrote: post #130

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I don't want status quo, but I also don't want them housed. I want the ones that steal, rape, squat in parks, do drugs, sell drugs, defecate in public, and litter to all be thrown in jail.

Are you suggesting that jail (aka expensive housing funded by the public) is the most effective solution to these crimes/behaviors? For example, do you think the population of people who defecate in public are going to be deterred due to the threat of imprisonment?

Either deterred or jailed, either way you end up with less shit on the street.

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Post by nosianu »

busymom0 wrote: post #29
barney54 wrote: post #9

Here's his campaign ad. https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1455899165230354448?s=20 South Jersey obviously isn't very happy with New Jersey's leadership.

Love it how basic and down to earth his ad is.

But he uses the same tricks as everyone else. I only heard a few statements, one that immediately caught in my filter: "seven out of every ten moves are leaving the state" -- which is a meaningless metric if left by itself like in the video, unless you know what is normal, and also how many are moving in?
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