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Re: Firefox 94

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Post by Anthony-G »

gnomewascool wrote: post #24
SwiftyBug wrote: post #17

> Firefox no longer warns you by default when you exit the browser or close a window using a menu, button, or three-key command. Why would anyone want this? On macOS it is infuriantingly easy to press CMD + Q by accident. Why would you not want to confirm that you actually want to close ALL your tabs?

CMD + Q is a two-key command, so presumably the warning will still be present.

Correct. According to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-configure-close-tab...

> The only instance in which a close modal is on by default is for two-key quit shortcuts on macOS and Linux. The risk of accidental closure is higher in this context since the quit shortcut (⌘+Q) is adjacent to the switch-application shortcut (⌘+Tab).

Also:

> you will still have full control over the quit/close modal behavior. All warnings can be managed within Firefox Settings.

I’m happy with this change. I regularly use Ctrl-Shift-W and Ctrl-Shift-Q – and never inadvertently – so I don’t need a confirmation prompt. I was – and still am – delighted when Firefox introduced the confirmation prompt for Ctrl-Q (which is too easy to hit instead of of Ctrl-W).

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by Anthony-G »

rsync wrote: post #301
Throwthrowbob wrote: post #55

Heads up, you may lose your tabs when you update. It seems normal tab restoring procedures apply, but if you collect many like me, it means an initial shock of reloading all of them. "I lost my tabs after the update — What can I do? You may notice that after updating Firefox to version 94, the tabs from your previous session were closed. To learn how to restore a previous session, visit How do I restore my tabs from…

It would be so, so easy to guard against this if they would just give people: about:tabs ... which would be a plain text listing of all the URLs of all the tabs you have open. You could just copy and paste it to a file or whatever. Instead , we need to dig several directories deep into /Library (or whatever, depending on OS) and then use JSON tools to export ... I've already lost most people. Go search for "how can I…

I know you don’t want to install an extension but for the benefit of others, my solution was to install the Copy as Markdown extension¹ which provides all tabs in current window as a list of Markdown links. It suits me because I often like to take notes and save them as Markdown – as well as providing a backup list of open tabs (one list per window).

¹ https://github.com/yorkxin/copy-as-markdown

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by Aaronn »

cpeterso wrote: post #299
prima-facie wrote: post #282

Does this release actually enable Fission (process separation) by default? [1] I see it's still turned off in about:config [1]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/05/introducing-firefox-new-si...

Fission site isolation is not enabled by default in Firefox 94. Since this is a huge change, it's being slowly rolled out to all Firefox 94 users over the next four weeks to watch for bugs. It's already been enabled for 60% of Firefox Nightly users and 40% of Firefox Beta users for a few release cycles.

It would be nice if the release notes could be updated to say that. Right now it says

> To better protect all Firefox users against side-channel attacks such as Spectre, we’ve introduced Site Isolation. We’ve got your back...errr...side!

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by cpeterso »

Aaronn wrote: post #323
cpeterso wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fission site isolation is not enabled by default in Firefox 94. Since this is a huge change, it's being slowly rolled out to all Firefox 94 users over the next four weeks to watch for bugs. It's already been enabled for 60% of Firefox Nightly users and 40% of Firefox Beta users for a few release cycles.

It would be nice if the release notes could be updated to say that. Right now it says > To better protect all Firefox users against side-channel attacks such as Spectre, we’ve introduced Site Isolation. We’ve got your back...errr...side!

I'll ask to update the release note.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by Throwthrowbob »

afarviral wrote: post #318
Throwthrowbob wrote: post #55

Heads up, you may lose your tabs when you update. It seems normal tab restoring procedures apply, but if you collect many like me, it means an initial shock of reloading all of them. "I lost my tabs after the update — What can I do? You may notice that after updating Firefox to version 94, the tabs from your previous session were closed. To learn how to restore a previous session, visit How do I restore my tabs from…

I just did the update with about 20 tabs open. They all restored fine but they were sort of "unloaded". That didn't cause any issues for me though.

Successfully updated on Linux Mint through Apt and experienced no issues with 359 tabs.

I expect tabs to be unloaded (I start and stop Firefox frequently). I may not be seeing what you mention.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by gear54rus »

_odey wrote: post #273

Quick question (and a bit of an aside): let's say I'm interested in a specific feature being implemented (profile switcher like in chrome, built in feature as in [1], not an add-on as in [2]). How do I go about getting more attention to potentially have this prioritized? Making an account in their bug tracker and spamming the threads sounds annoying, I'd personally get upset if someone did that to my repos or issue t…

Out of curiosity, why do you need it? Isn't this simply solved by user accounts of the operating system? What's wrong with having it as an addon?

Also did you know that you can launch firefox with -p switch and do it that way?

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by extra88 »

dt2m wrote: post #164

My daily driver is a 2014 MacBook Pro and I just recently switched to Firefox from Safari. It's so much faster it's not even a fair comparison – I feel like I've gotten a whole new computer. Even compared to Chrome it loads pages so much faster on old hardware. Props to Mozilla!!!

For such a dramatic page-loading difference, I wonder if your Mac is using a not very good DNS that Firefox is avoiding because it defaults to DNS over HTTPS.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by Vinnl »

afarviral wrote: post #319
BMorearty wrote: post #96

I recently switched from Chrome back to Firefox after the news about Google forcing people to stay logged-in to Chrome for tracking purposes. I’ve switched in the past but always ended up switching back for one reason or another. This time I’ve actually been very happy with it and don’t think I’ll switch back soon. Better in Firefox: * Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently-used order. Just like Cmd+Tab. This featu…

Ctrl+Tab recent order is an options in the settings in firefox. Not sure if this is on be default. I got used to this feature from VS Code. Lovely to have it in Firefox!

It's on by default, but only for new users. For those who were using it since before it was introduced, it's still set to the other value.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by Vinnl »

ProAm wrote: post #275
BMorearty wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just tried it. It worked. Are we doing different things? 1. Clicked in the URL bar. 2. Started typing something. 3. Arrow-keyed down to one of the entries under “Firefox suggest.” 4. Tapped Shift+Del. The entry was gone and didn’t come back next time I typed the same thing in the URL bar.

its a bug for people who have upgraded in the past (Im not sure how many upgrades I have gone through but its been years worth). The issue is not with URLs when you start to type (those I can shift+del) but rather when you have a new tab (or empty URL bar) and you click into the address bar, it prepopulates with a list of URLs from somewhere, probably an internal db. It is these suggestions that I cannot shift+del on…

Another possibly unhelpful suggestion: find the site in your history, then right-click and select "Forget about this site"?

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by dt2m »

extra88 wrote: post #327
dt2m wrote: post #164

My daily driver is a 2014 MacBook Pro and I just recently switched to Firefox from Safari. It's so much faster it's not even a fair comparison – I feel like I've gotten a whole new computer. Even compared to Chrome it loads pages so much faster on old hardware. Props to Mozilla!!!

For such a dramatic page-loading difference, I wonder if your Mac is using a not very good DNS that Firefox is avoiding because it defaults to DNS over HTTPS.

Good point, but I just checked and DoH has been disabled this whole time. The difference isn't that dramatic, but shaving off around 100ms on every page load really adds up in the end.
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