These discussions remind me if 1995 when Microsoft tried to create it's own version of the Internet - luckily that failed, we still got Windiws and IE though. Lol
I'd imagine it will be similar with Facebooks strategy
The metaverse is bullshit
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Instead of watching a professional driver smoothly going around a switchback, you sit in first person POV in a car that feels, handles, and accelerates better and faster than the real thing. It even cheats to make you feel like you're a better driver—that the car makes you a better driver. You probably won't buy it on the spot, but you could ; the car as an impulse buy right at the peak of your high. Even if you don'…
If everybody is making cars that handle much better than they do in the real world, wouldn't this result in an arms race of upping the "cheese" of the mechanics to heighten the intensity? And this only works until people recognize the grift -- once they know the actual car experience and the demo experience aren't related, suddenly it won't be a useful ad anymore.
That's not a likely scenario. They aren't trying to create a Camry that handles like a Porsche. They're trying to sell Camrys. The effects will be subtle and plausible. To the extent that it's discovered, there will be excuses. And even after it's discovered, it will continue, just like everyone today knows TV car ads aren't real, but they're still effective, because they tap into the right parts of our brains.
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bruce willis surrogates anyone? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0986263
Exactly what I had in mind. Underrated movie. Maybe metaverse will end up somewhere between the currently envisioned one and like the surrogates physically existing and people at their homes interacting with the world via them, where tech companies even give the main unit for free but sell unlockable content for their surrogates.
farmville comes to mind. oh what fun times we live in
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#214I think you are taking the attempt too much seriously. The metaverse is nothing else than one of humanity’s oldest dreams: be God and create a world.
It goes all together with other humanity dreams like fly, eternal youth, read other’s minds, immortality, travel beyond the sky, trespass all frontiers/circumvent the world, telepathy, life without work or pain, etc.
They -have- to try, specially because they successfully achieved other large goals in their previous enterprises and now they feel they have to defeat new boundaries.
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#215This thread feels like 1860's consilium on what future will look like 500 years later. The shape of the metaverse will be formed by a new generation, not by older guys (and not by fortnite addicts who play by the rules of the former) who know nothing better than drive a fancy “car” on the “road”, as if roads or a concept of physical movement or the euclidean rule would still be there for common use and not for museum…
Without the "concept of physical movement" how will "food" get to your "house"?
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#216the good news is that the metaverse and the tech industry's very expensive obsession with trying to make it a reality will be a schadenfreude generator the likes of which we've never seen before The tech landscape is littered with failed attempts, but we have here two very technically successful companies, Epic and Facebook, both trying to re-imagine the internet as something different. I'm not sure I'd write them of…
Past performance is no guarantee of future results They were successful with one thing. Now they are talking about something else. Why shouldn't "MetaVerse" be compared to the insane optimism of AI in the 1980'ies? Something that seemed just around the corner, but never arrived. It's like Thorium reactors: half the people think it's the next great thing, the other half thinks it will never come into production.
Successful with a huge asterisk, considering Fortnite was completely dead until they tacked on the Battlegrounds clone.
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#217The meta verse should be BS, but it will be not.
Like it or not, It’s simply the next new/big thing and we better embrace it before it’s too late.
Funny thing, I’ve recently refused a job from one of the big players on the filed because they wouldn’t allow me to work from remote…
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#218So far, we have three basic "metaverse" approaches. 1. Augmented reality, that is, overlays on the real world. A cross between Pokemon Go and Google Glass. The Facebook version of this would probably look like that "Hyperreality" video I mention too often. This is all too likely to happen, if only to free up the hands of people who walk through the world staring at their phones. John Carmack expects it as soon as the…
I don't believe in headgears, even though facebook will try hard to monetize their investment in oculus. Phones were successful because they adopt the unintrusive form factor of a book: you don't need to make time and space away from reality for it. VR/AR requires the time and space to be alone and it wears out over time as the bandwidth of communication is low, probably even lower than in video chat. But turning eve…
I could see AR working if we get glasses that compare to your average or bit cumbersome safety glasses. That is you wear them, maybe not entirely love having them, but they do something useful for you. Overlay video, recipe, map. Provide information about surroundings. That is you are either working or maybe walking around and need to navigate, but don't want to keep your phone out all the time.
VR I just don't see getting there. It blocks your vision causing multiple problems, and technology is nowhere near where you would want to wear one for extended period of time.
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Well, yeah. Honestly, a massively multiplayer GTA V or Red Dead 2 would basically be the whole Metaverse concept. The only differences would be: (1) You aren't there to complete missions; there's no storylines and it's totally open-ended. There are no writers, and (2) The spaces and content are created by anyone, not a central company, and (3) You can go from GTA world to Red Dead world to tons of other worlds withou…
I don't know, that just sounds like pitching a TV show without writers. Even a reality TV show or a cooking show needs writers to keep things entertaining. Otherwise, you sort of just have nothing to look at. > You can code your own physical spaces and code your own avatar's abilities I ask again: why can't I code my avatar to be the most OP avatar that ever exists? I will create a weapon that kills people if they lo…
Real world is like that, you can “code” manipulate the world. However there is a limit on some extent and in such worlds there will be other limits like a consensual physics rule on servers entry, like “local laws”. Rather than LUA think on declarative contracts that limit your crafting based on agreed parameters.
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#220Text is mightier than the Metaverse. Kids can do video calls with their smartphones but prefer texting. We could discuss Hacker News stories with video chat but we prefer text. News and politics junkies prefer reading text tweets on Twitter to watching talking news anchors. Once upon a time Amazon was a company that only sold books. Dried ink on dead trees. And in the early internet age this book seller outperformed…
Kids prefer messaging because it's asynchronous, not because they prefer text.
I have a much younger cousin who's in their teens. Teens of today prefer text messaging because they don't have to show their face. Even when my cousins video chat they don't like to show their face and will aim the camera in other directions despite being in video chat.