Effect of early treatment with fluvoxamine on risk of hospitalization for Covid

Post by vorpalhex » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 7:04 PM UTC

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>Prior to studies being done, how do we evaluate who is a quack and who is correct You allow the dialog to take place and make up your own mind. >I would argue that anyone who had a solution to Covid should rush to get it published in a reputable Any tool thats not a vaccine gets associated with Trump or the right wing and is dismissed. Its even stifled funding for anti-virals that give a 50% reduction in hospitaliza…

> You allow the dialog to take place and make up your own mind. I'm not sure this applies to medicine or vaccines. I don't think any of us are in the position of "making up our own mind" about what works in medicine and what doesn't, which is why we have double-blind clinical studies. We can't even explain why/how placebo works.

Post by beamatronic » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 7:10 PM UTC

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There are plenty of Facebook and YouTube guides about taking animal ivermectin as a replacement for human-rated medicine. That said hopefully here on HN we can agree that is a dumb idea.

If the government were stupid and tyrranical enough to ban Human Azithromycin, and you came down with bacterial bronchitis, would you just die or would you go to the local feed store and buy some animal grade azithromycin?

Post by didibus » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 7:14 PM UTC

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Why does it say: > We found a clinically important absolute risk reduction of 5·0%, and 32% RR reduction, on the primary outcome of hospitalisation Why is the absolute 5% and the RR 32%? What's the difference? Also why does it say: > There were no significant differences between fluvoxamine and placebo for viral clearance at day 7 (p=0·090) and hospitalisations due to COVID (p=0·10), all-cause hospitalisations (p=0·0…

>Why is the absolute 5% and the RR 32%? What's the difference? Absolute reduction is compared to control in absolute terms (16% hospitalized in control minus 11% with treatment = 5%). Relative risk reduction is the absolute reduction divided by hospitalizations in the control (5%/16%) Absolute % tells you how big the effect is, relative risk tells you how big it is in comparison to the reference. >Why wouldn't they m…

Post by Vrondi » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 7:15 PM UTC

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What's interesting is Steve Kirsch was touting this months ago alongside Robert Malone and Bret Weinstein. That content got banned from YouTube. Was more or less harm done by stifling this information? In the desire to drive official therapeutics and vaccines was this potentially not surfaced as fast as it could have been? I'm not sure. It's good food for thought though.

I think the issue is how was it proven back then? There are a lot of people promoting ideas, some of which will eventually get clinical backing that they are correct. Prior to studies being done, how do we evaluate who is a quack and who is correct? There is a lot of harm promoting quack ideas during a pandemic. Based on reputation? Twitter followers? Their passion? I do not believe anyone censored research and scien…

Post by spookthesunset » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 7:20 PM UTC

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> The government could have spent the last 18 months encouraging people to lose weight, stop smoking, drinking, and eating fast food. Instead, the "solution" did the opposite. But worse, kids stayed inside, didn't exercise, put on (likely more) weight, didn't share illness (read: weakened immune system) and then those kids were ordered back to school in that highly vulnerable state. The solution? The jab. With absolu…

If you seriously think the government could have made us all lose weight in the last 18 months... they’ve been running anti obesity campaigns for decades and failing while obesity grows every year. BTW covid is plenty dangerous to non obese as well. The vaccine shot actually works well and is incredibly easy to use compared to a grueling year long weight loss and sustaining it for a lifetime, for most people.