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Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

#101

LAME. There's nothing here about Hacker News's disrespect for users, expressed in its disgraceful "you're posting too fast" bullshit. They let you waste your time composing a question or answer, and THEN tell you that you can't post AFTER you press the button to submit it. NO EXCUSE, ASSHOLES.

With your case it's perhaps a relief to the rest of us.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So as long as something doesn't challenge our beliefs, values, opinions or prejudices it's OK. You're trying way too hard to make this about bias. There are more charitable and simpler explanations, such as signal-to-noise ratio and the expectation that submissions to HN are focused on geek-oriented science and tech topics.

I'm saying there is bias. And I'm saying it because it is healthy to acknowledge that we're both capable of bias and denial of same. The reply you are quoting is currently at -3. Voting is more about about affecting visibility than whether one agrees or not. Or ideally should be. Does this tell us something? Doesn't it kind of prove my point for me?

I downvoted it because it's just a boring snipe and has no real substance. This comment, while ever so slightly more substantial, is still little more just some vague claims and accusations.

As far as I'm concerned that it's downvoted only "proves" that people tend to prefer more substantial conversation than this. If you had posted something of value I wouldn't have downvoted it, even though I probably would have disagreed with it.

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A collaborative resource with more information about undocumented/norms on HN: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented > Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots). Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is th…

> ??? Is it common that people think he is Asian for some reason? What a strange paragraph to include... I agree, the paragraph is strange and at best reads like a non-sequitur. Then again I always associated the username "dang" with the word "dang", which I thought it was an amusing (and appropriate) choice of name for a moderator. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/dang

> Then again I always associated the username "dang" with the word "dang", which I thought it was an amusing (and appropriate) choice of name for a moderator.

Right; it took me forever to realize that "dang" was "Dan G" and not just a word. Especially since HN usernames can have mixed case, so he could have picked "DanG" (which... I still would have probably read as a funnily-formatted word but it'd be more of a hint:]). Though for all I know he predates HN supporting uppercase in names, and stylistically I can totally see preferring lowercase.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm saying there is bias. And I'm saying it because it is healthy to acknowledge that we're both capable of bias and denial of same. I'm sorry but you're just doubling down on your baseless assertion. Just because you argue everyone might have their personal bias that does not mean that everyone around you is desperately trying to not challenge their beliefs. That's a very specific and very personal interpretation…

More appealing or simpler? And when you say "reasonable", do you really mean "reasonable" or do you mean "charitable"? Look at how your language suddenly grew pointy. What do you think that means?

> More appealing or simpler?

Occam's razor.

> * And when you say "reasonable", do you really mean "reasonable" or do you mean "charitable"?*

Reasonable.

> Look at how your language suddenly grew pointy.

It seems you're more interested in trolling than actually discussing the issue. Consequently I won't reply any further.

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I'm really curious about voting ring detection. Oftentimes I've seen posts from the same company hitting the front page over and over again, and none of them was particularly interesting, nor was the company any of HN's "love children" such as Stripe. I can't recall any specific example, but when looking a bit closer it was usually some small- to medium-sized startup with maybe 10-100 people, which would technically…

Ring detection works for people who don't know it exists. And thus works well a lot of times. But is very easy to bypass, and I won't tell you how. And if I recall well, dang has already said several times that he will not disclose the algorithm https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

> But is very easy to bypass, and I won't tell you how.

That really depends on how it works, and whether you know how it works. Simple signals such as IP location and temporal distribution of votes are easy to use for detection, but also easy to manipulate. On the other hand, if you employ a graph of user associations based on votes and comments in the past, you can detect clusters among them, voting collaboratively. This is way harder to circumvent in the long run, but also extremely difficult to implement accurately.

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One thing I’ve never understood is I can only upvote, but some comments are greyed out as if they’ve been downvoted. How does this work?

Why would you downvote something? 'You weren't invited, just move along', exists. Happy to say, I only ever upvote.

When I disagree as a matter of opinion, I don’t have an urge to downvote. Sometimes I respond when I’m moved to, otherwise, like you, I just keep perusing.

Fortunately I don’t see many comments that are so wrong that I can say they are in fact false, but it does happen. In those cases, I think a downvote is valuable.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So as long as something doesn't challenge our beliefs, values, opinions or prejudices it's OK.

The parent is trying to tell that off-topic is not welcomed by some users. I am the same opinion, I don't want to see on HN news about some non-technical political thing in LA or India , or see 3 days in a row someone toy Rust project. You can try to change my mind that I should never use GOTO, some fanatic submitted such articles and comments using the "NEVER" and I will be happy to reply because is still on topic.…

>God says vaccine is bad but hearth pills are good

Anyone else wondering what a "hearth pill" is?

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