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One thing I’ve never understood is I can only upvote, but some comments are greyed out as if they’ve been downvoted. How does this work?

Why would you downvote something? 'You weren't invited, just move along', exists. Happy to say, I only ever upvote.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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post #2

>readers reacted negatively, even violently, to seeing [...] stories that were placed there randomly >HN users have an intense emotional relationship with the front page If a "greatest 80s hits" radio station started broadcasting music from the 00s and people got pissed off you wouldn't say "listeners of this station have an intense emotional relationship with it". When they tune in to the "greatest 80s hits" station…

You can't scroll past a song on the radio

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One of the things about Hackernews karma system is that a lot of downvotes get filtered out as fraudulent. However, once you are “targeted” that filter is removed and downvotes against you become more powerful. I used to have a very high karma nearing 1000, and then one day it’s like a switch got flipped and my karma began a decline that never stopped, a year later I’ve been completely drained of karma. I might never really recover. It’s a bad feedback loop because when you know nothing you say or do can make things better there is less incentive to be cordial in your messages.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

#85
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is not a “greatest 80s hits” radio, though. Users submit links and users vote on them. There is nobody making editorial decisions about what goes on the front page, beyond extreme cases. Sure, there is some tweaking, but in the end it’s all stories posted and upvoted by us, collectively. So it is entirely pointless to whine about the content: it is what the community wants to see.

There is nobody making editorial decisions about what goes on the front page, beyond extreme cases. HN is more actively moderated than this, you can find piles of moderator comments about it.

YC companies can put in an submission; it goes to the front page but sinks fairly rapidly and can't be commented on. I think that these are usually employment ads.

I also think that's the only direct placement, but I can't be certain.

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I'm really curious about voting ring detection. Oftentimes I've seen posts from the same company hitting the front page over and over again, and none of them was particularly interesting, nor was the company any of HN's "love children" such as Stripe. I can't recall any specific example, but when looking a bit closer it was usually some small- to medium-sized startup with maybe 10-100 people, which would technically…

Ring detection works for people who don't know it exists. And thus works well a lot of times. But is very easy to bypass, and I won't tell you how.

And if I recall well, dang has already said several times that he will not disclose the algorithm https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about China, but in Vietnam there are 14 family names which account for about 90% of the entire population. Roughly 40% of all Vietnamese people are called "Nguyen", which makes it one of the most common family names in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_name#Family_name

I remember a developer blog that had that lastname! Also Diane in Bojack Horseman surname! Guessing she's of Vietnamese ascent!

She is. There are two whole episodes dedicated to her vietnamese heritage.

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A collaborative resource with more information about undocumented/norms on HN: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented > Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots). Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is th…

I always thought he was of Vietnamese descent. Today I learned. I'm kinda glad that bit of information was added to an otherwise very mathematical post.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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post #68
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm saying there is bias. And I'm saying it because it is healthy to acknowledge that we're both capable of bias and denial of same. The reply you are quoting is currently at -3. Voting is more about about affecting visibility than whether one agrees or not. Or ideally should be. Does this tell us something? Doesn't it kind of prove my point for me?

> I'm saying there is bias. And I'm saying it because it is healthy to acknowledge that we're both capable of bias and denial of same. I'm sorry but you're just doubling down on your baseless assertion. Just because you argue everyone might have their personal bias that does not mean that everyone around you is desperately trying to not challenge their beliefs. That's a very specific and very personal interpretation…

More appealing or simpler? And when you say "reasonable", do you really mean "reasonable" or do you mean "charitable"?

Look at how your language suddenly grew pointy. What do you think that means?

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

#90

A collaborative resource with more information about undocumented/norms on HN: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented > Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots). Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is th…

> Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules.

Some posts get reposted a lot see this website for example https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=lihaoyi.com some were posted 7 times.

This thing is that almost any well written (and not too much technical) post can reach the frontpage it only requires 3-4 people who like the post enough to upvote it during the first 30 minutes. As a result reposting works for those kind of content. And as it is not forbidden, people do it

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