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Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

sdflhasjd wrote: post #34
lordnacho wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought he was a Chinese guy until I read an article about him. I'm sure a lot of people thought similarly, that it was one syllable "dang!" rather than Dan-G.

"Dang" is still a common word in English though. It sounds like the article implies it's a common name or something, but Asia is a pretty big place

>"Dang" is still a common word in English though

Dang is a common euphemism for the swear word damn, https://mashable.com/article/origin-of-swear-words - the euphemism "dang" was first used around 1780.

I believe it is also regional and somewhat archaic in use now unless you are real religious and probably also rural.

>but Asia is a pretty big place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dang_(surname)

surname in China, Vietnam, Korea, and India.

Also apparently in Germany.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by bborud »

nuerow wrote: post #51
bborud wrote: post #19

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So as long as something doesn't challenge our beliefs, values, opinions or prejudices it's OK.

> So as long as something doesn't challenge our beliefs, values, opinions or prejudices it's OK. You're trying way too hard to make this about bias. There are more charitable and simpler explanations, such as signal-to-noise ratio and the expectation that submissions to HN are focused on geek-oriented science and tech topics.

I'm saying there is bias. And I'm saying it because it is healthy to acknowledge that we're both capable of bias and denial of same.

The reply you are quoting is currently at -3. Voting is more about about affecting visibility than whether one agrees or not. Or ideally should be. Does this tell us something? Doesn't it kind of prove my point for me?

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by blauditore »

I'm really curious about voting ring detection. Oftentimes I've seen posts from the same company hitting the front page over and over again, and none of them was particularly interesting, nor was the company any of HN's "love children" such as Stripe. I can't recall any specific example, but when looking a bit closer it was usually some small- to medium-sized startup with maybe 10-100 people, which would technically be enough to make a big dent into a post's score.

On the one hand I'd love to know more about the detection algorithm, on the other hand that information would be inevitably abused by those shitposters to game it.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by simion314 »

bborud wrote: post #53
simion314 wrote: post #31

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The parent is trying to tell that off-topic is not welcomed by some users. I am the same opinion, I don't want to see on HN news about some non-technical political thing in LA or India , or see 3 days in a row someone toy Rust project. You can try to change my mind that I should never use GOTO, some fanatic submitted such articles and comments using the "NEVER" and I will be happy to reply because is still on topic.…

I don't think it is hard to pick clear examples. It is harder to pick clear policies for examples that end up in some gray area.

Sure, but the parent was implying that if we reject some content is because we don't want our mind changed. A forum should have a scope/topic and it should reject off-topic posts.

I love subreddits with clear rules, then you don't see articles or comments that go in tangents, memes or american or international politics. The moderators can decide the gray area after user report. So trying to post some COVID or politics stuff in one of the good moderated subreddits will be removed and it is not because we don't want to open our mind.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by actually_a_dog »

capableweb wrote: post #6

A collaborative resource with more information about undocumented/norms on HN: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented > Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots). Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is th…

> ??? Is it common that people think he is Asian for some reason? What a strange paragraph to include...

I don't see how it matters whether he's Asian or not. For all I care, he could be a sentient pineapple tree and it wouldn't matter at all to my HN user experience.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by nuerow »

bborud wrote: post #62
nuerow wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So as long as something doesn't challenge our beliefs, values, opinions or prejudices it's OK. You're trying way too hard to make this about bias. There are more charitable and simpler explanations, such as signal-to-noise ratio and the expectation that submissions to HN are focused on geek-oriented science and tech topics.

I'm saying there is bias. And I'm saying it because it is healthy to acknowledge that we're both capable of bias and denial of same. The reply you are quoting is currently at -3. Voting is more about about affecting visibility than whether one agrees or not. Or ideally should be. Does this tell us something? Doesn't it kind of prove my point for me?

> I'm saying there is bias. And I'm saying it because it is healthy to acknowledge that we're both capable of bias and denial of same.

I'm sorry but you're just doubling down on your baseless assertion. Just because you argue everyone might have their personal bias that does not mean that everyone around you is desperately trying to not challenge their beliefs. That's a very specific and very personal interpretation that you're trying to pin on everyone around you without any basis.

Meanwhile, there are simpler and reasonable explanations that you somehow decided to ignore.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by detaro »

blauditore wrote: post #63

I'm really curious about voting ring detection. Oftentimes I've seen posts from the same company hitting the front page over and over again, and none of them was particularly interesting, nor was the company any of HN's "love children" such as Stripe. I can't recall any specific example, but when looking a bit closer it was usually some small- to medium-sized startup with maybe 10-100 people, which would technically…

You can email dang and ask that he looks into a specific case in more detail (although usually the answer is "looks natural")
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