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Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by simion314 »

bborud wrote: post #19
vadfa wrote: post #2

>readers reacted negatively, even violently, to seeing [...] stories that were placed there randomly >HN users have an intense emotional relationship with the front page If a "greatest 80s hits" radio station started broadcasting music from the 00s and people got pissed off you wouldn't say "listeners of this station have an intense emotional relationship with it". When they tune in to the "greatest 80s hits" station…

So as long as something doesn't challenge our beliefs, values, opinions or prejudices it's OK.

The parent is trying to tell that off-topic is not welcomed by some users. I am the same opinion, I don't want to see on HN news about some non-technical political thing in LA or India , or see 3 days in a row someone toy Rust project.

You can try to change my mind that I should never use GOTO, some fanatic submitted such articles and comments using the "NEVER" and I will be happy to reply because is still on topic. But don't submit something like "God says vaccine is bad but hearth pills are good" since is obvious off topic , though I am curious about such illogical believes if I want to learn more there is a better forum for that.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by PostThisTooFast »

rimliu wrote: post #21
capableweb wrote: post #6

A collaborative resource with more information about undocumented/norms on HN: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented > Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots). Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is th…

Either I missed it or it does not mention "posting too fast" feature, which is very annoying, because if you commented on something you can be restricted from commenting on another, unrelated topic.

It's beyond annoying. It's disrespectful as hell. Hacker News lets users waste time composing a question or answer, and THEN says they can't post when they try to submit it.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by ketzu »

capableweb wrote: post #6

A collaborative resource with more information about undocumented/norms on HN: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented > Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots). Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is th…

> ??? Is it common that people think he is Asian for some reason? What a strange paragraph to include...

Not just that, but for some time you could observe subthreads accusing him of being a chinese subversion of HN in china related discussions.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by sdflhasjd »

lordnacho wrote: post #22
detritus wrote: post #14

> He’s not of asian descent. What?

I thought he was a Chinese guy until I read an article about him. I'm sure a lot of people thought similarly, that it was one syllable "dang!" rather than Dan-G.

"Dang" is still a common word in English though. It sounds like the article implies it's a common name or something, but Asia is a pretty big place

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by fragmede »

vadfa wrote: post #2

>readers reacted negatively, even violently, to seeing [...] stories that were placed there randomly >HN users have an intense emotional relationship with the front page If a "greatest 80s hits" radio station started broadcasting music from the 00s and people got pissed off you wouldn't say "listeners of this station have an intense emotional relationship with it". When they tune in to the "greatest 80s hits" station…

Radio is a one way medium though. HN missed an opportunity to sell users on it but adding it as an opt-in/invite feature instead.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by kergonath »

vadfa wrote: post #2

>readers reacted negatively, even violently, to seeing [...] stories that were placed there randomly >HN users have an intense emotional relationship with the front page If a "greatest 80s hits" radio station started broadcasting music from the 00s and people got pissed off you wouldn't say "listeners of this station have an intense emotional relationship with it". When they tune in to the "greatest 80s hits" station…

HN is not a “greatest 80s hits” radio, though. Users submit links and users vote on them. There is nobody making editorial decisions about what goes on the front page, beyond extreme cases. Sure, there is some tweaking, but in the end it’s all stories posted and upvoted by us, collectively. So it is entirely pointless to whine about the content: it is what the community wants to see.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by bborud »

have_faith wrote: post #29
bborud wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So as long as something doesn't challenge our beliefs, values, opinions or prejudices it's OK.

Playing 00's music on an 80's radio station isn't challenging someone's fondness of 80's music, it's just annoying.

I was disagreeing with the premise that Hacker News is, or should be, very narrow in scope. Though I'll grant you that there are certainly degrees to this. There are regularly posts that make me wonder why they were posted to HN when I first see them here - and yet, these often manage to enrich my day.

There are risks to making too many rules about who gets to be a member in your club.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by kergonath »

simion314 wrote: post #31
bborud wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So as long as something doesn't challenge our beliefs, values, opinions or prejudices it's OK.

The parent is trying to tell that off-topic is not welcomed by some users. I am the same opinion, I don't want to see on HN news about some non-technical political thing in LA or India , or see 3 days in a row someone toy Rust project. You can try to change my mind that I should never use GOTO, some fanatic submitted such articles and comments using the "NEVER" and I will be happy to reply because is still on topic.…

Entirely agree about political stories and rust projects du jour (I’d go as far as associating out-of-topic posts on $random_software about how it’s be much better in rust).

Just ignore/downvote/flag and move on, though. Nobody is forcing anyone else to read anything, and it’s normal that some people here are interested in things in which I’m not. None of us is the arbiter of what should or should not be on HN. Not us mere posters, anyway.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by nuerow »

capableweb wrote: post #6

A collaborative resource with more information about undocumented/norms on HN: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented > Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots). Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is th…

> ??? Is it common that people think he is Asian for some reason? What a strange paragraph to include...

I agree, the paragraph is strange and at best reads like a non-sequitur.

Then again I always associated the username "dang" with the word "dang", which I thought it was an amusing (and appropriate) choice of name for a moderator.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/dang

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