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Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by wffurr »

Kapura wrote: post #105
astlouis44 wrote: post #11

WebAssembly is coming for games next. Near native performance, players can join with just a link, and no 30% cut that developers have to deal with.

I've been working in games for the better part of a decade, at AAA scale for the last three years, and this is pure fantasy. It is extremely difficult to develop high-quality games for a console, which has fixed hardware specs and a single vendor for the SDK. Any layer of emulation on top of that creates new problems and dilutes every single aspect of performance, sometimes in unpredictable ways. On top of that, buil…

Doesn't Nintendo sell a crapload of games written to run on a six year old mobile chip? Seems like there's a plenty large market for non-AAA games.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by aspenmayer »

Kapura wrote: post #105
astlouis44 wrote: post #11

WebAssembly is coming for games next. Near native performance, players can join with just a link, and no 30% cut that developers have to deal with.

I've been working in games for the better part of a decade, at AAA scale for the last three years, and this is pure fantasy. It is extremely difficult to develop high-quality games for a console, which has fixed hardware specs and a single vendor for the SDK. Any layer of emulation on top of that creates new problems and dilutes every single aspect of performance, sometimes in unpredictable ways. On top of that, buil…

Does Electron help with this?

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by pupppet »

wgx wrote: post #4

A polite reminder that the (quite extraordinary) Photopea[0] is available which replicates most of Photoshop's features in the browser, and is free - with a paid ad-free option. 0. https://www.photopea.com/

Wow even some of Photoshop's more obscure shortcuts are the same. Embarrassing that it feels snappier than my actual copy of PS.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by emsy »

modeless wrote: post #84
orangepurple wrote: post #53

> Why Photoshop came to the web The entire section is a deception. The real reason is to strong arm everyone into a subscription model where you never own the software that runs on your computer. That's the real end game, not this nonsense about how easy it is to launch an application if its a URL in a browser.

Adobe strong-armed everyone to the subscription model long before they supported web. There's no relation at all.

You can still get pirated versions of CC everywhere. Adobe didn’t act like they had the benefit of their users in mind in recent years, so there’s no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by Tenoke »

dperfect wrote: post #88
wgx wrote: post #4

A polite reminder that the (quite extraordinary) Photopea[0] is available which replicates most of Photoshop's features in the browser, and is free - with a paid ad-free option. 0. https://www.photopea.com/

The fact that Photopea is better than GIMP in so many ways (does GIMP still not have adjustment layers for non-destructive editing?), and was created by one person is a little depressing, but also inspiring at the same time.

Yes, GIMP layers are still in limited and a pain to use. I'll definitely try photopea next time.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by cpeterso »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #45
mhoad wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two very underfunded teams there trying to play catch up. Only one of them has an excuse though, the other is literally the most profitable company in the world who is strategically trying to make the web into a subpar platform for their own commercial interests.

Firefox isn't even playing catchup. Mozilla aborted what scant work it's done on PWA support. From the horse's mouth: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1682593 Chrome and its variants have already won the PWA space, not by some brilliant strategy or sinister ploy on Google's part, but by default of its competitors.

That bug is only about Single Site Browser mode (SSB), where a desktop link would open a website in a Firefox browser window with no browser controls.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by open-source-ux »

randomluck040 wrote: post #15
CincinnatiMan wrote: post #12

Really interesting how the browser is becoming the universal OS. It sort of gives more power/control to Google and reduces it from Apple and Microsoft. Would love to be in the executive meetings where they discuss the implications of this.

Is this something to be worried about? I also see more and more things in the field of geography , especially data visualisation, to start living in browsers and most people default to Chrome.

Is this something to be worried about?

Yes. But it is mostly too late to doing anything. The move to the browser has been happening for years.

As an example, look at ChromesOS - a cloud operating system (OS) that tracks and records all your activity the moment you sign in. A Google account is required to use the full functionality of the OS. It is used by millions of schoolkids with all the privacy implications that entails. Somehow, Google's promise to never build profiles of their school users is enough to placate developers. In fact, developers are more likely to defend Google rather than question or scrutinise the privacy implications of using a cloud OS.

Google must be gleeful they've captured a whole generation of US kids to use Google services through the ubiquity of ChromeOS in US schools. And without any dissenting views from developers on the matter either.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by rogue7 »

PeterBarrett wrote: post #100

Someone did a really funny presentation on all apps moving to the web and then eventually OS's, followed by OS's running on OS's on the web. If anyone know's where I can find it I would really appreciate a link! It's pretty relevant to this seeing as it does seem to be where we are going.

I believe you are looking for Gary Bernhardt's talk:

https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Post by Tenoke »

wgx wrote: post #4

A polite reminder that the (quite extraordinary) Photopea[0] is available which replicates most of Photoshop's features in the browser, and is free - with a paid ad-free option. 0. https://www.photopea.com/

Wow, it even seems to work great on a phone, better than any free app I've tried.
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