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Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by jamil7 »

dual_dingo wrote: post #491
hnarn wrote: post #481

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This isn't Arch Linux we're talking about, it's the presumably tested and released operating system for the most premium personal computing hardware in the world. I'm not saying you shouldn't back up your stuff but your expectation on user behavior is unrealistic to put it mildly.

I am not very experienced with Arch, but my impression is that it is actually more reliable when updating/upgrading then going to a new major MacOS release, which is an absolute disagrace given the fact that Apple can actually test their stuff on every single hardware model it is supposed to run. And no, my experience on general user behaviour is to expect no backup, but this isn't Auntie Ednas crocheting Facebook gr…

> I am not very experienced with Arch, but my impression is that it is actually more reliable when updating/upgrading then going to a new major MacOS release

I used Arch briefly and this was not my experience, but at least in that community it's kind of expected that you understand this is a possibility and a tradeoff of running the OS.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by nsonha »

anonymoushn wrote: post #430
nsonha wrote: post #386

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Aranging windows is not a "power user feature". It's a basic thing that all other desktop OSes have. If you think hotkeys are "power user" things then replace them with gestures. Mac has none. They actually do have windows splits, it's just unfortunate that they force a workspace onto them. If anything workspace is a power user feature. Many including myself rarely use it. I could not if I wanted to because it looks…

What app do you use to get a normal alt+tab on mac?

It's literally called AltTab

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by saagarjha »

tempfs wrote: post #340
MrWiffles wrote: post #181

I haven’t seen this anywhere when I’ve looked, so I’ll ask here on the slim chance maybe they really added something I badly want and somebody knows… Is there any application forced sandboxing feature yet? Something users can control to forcibly stop bad behavior from certain “must have” apps. Chrome, for example, has been caught doing entire drive scans on Windows, and I’m not sure I entirely trust Zoom either. So I…

Well... you could create a new user profile, install the apps to that user's profile, give their group access to the folders you want the browser to be able to get to (Downloads folder, whatever), then lock them out of anything else....then run the browser as that user only. aka (sudo -u Bob /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/Firefox ) OS perms should do the rest. I don't know if OSX has a firejail equivalent b…

Chrome will request admin privileges to install Keystone, I believe.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by native_samples »

popcorncowboy wrote: post #485
dual_dingo wrote: post #473

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> I just upgraded to Monterey > I started to panic and figure out how I was going to back everything up. Upgrading to a new OS on release day without a prior backup. You like to live dangerously, do you?

At what point do we start to hold software and software providers to a higher standard? A multi-trillion dollar company releases an upgrade to its flagship operating system and "anyone who knows anything" smiles and nods because we understand that actually USING the upgrade runs a high enough chance to brick your device that doing so without a backup is a rube cliche. I get it. But my question stands.

We do hold them accountable ... by using Apple :( It's not like Linux or Windows upgrades are drastically smoother. In fact right now I have a Windows VM that tells me "This PC doesn't meet the requirements to upgrade to Windows 11" in the upgrade screen, and their health check app tells me "This PC meets the requirements". Probably something got cached somewhere, as I had to add a virtual TPM just now. But still. This kind of experience is routine, with Windows. Like, why is the health check app not built in? Why is there a separate tool to begin with? Why doesn't it use their latest app packaging and distribution system instead of a sucky old MSI file? It constantly feels like there's nobody at the head of the ship with Windows.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

concinds wrote: post #122

SharePlay to Mac (I tested audio) is utterly broken. Shockingly so. I just tried it again, and my music isn't paused, yet is stuck at 0:02. Pausing and unpausing it, and the song starts ticking, 0:03, 0:04, and so on, but you can't hear any audio. Pause it again. It goes back to 0:02. Now try this with AirPods connected to your Mac. Connect your iPhone's Apple Music to AirPlay to Mac. The YouTube video you had playin…

I’ve had these audio issues at least since I got my AirPods Pro around 18 months ago. This might be worse in Monterey, it just isn’t new.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

joconde wrote: post #468
mulmen wrote: post #251

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No. It is all still the same dumpster fire. I think they may have actually made it worse. I got a calendar notification of a cancelled event. The notification itself had no buttons to interact with. A hover where the close button would be (top left of the nmotification) causes it to appear and also causes a "delete" button to appear in the bottom right. But if I move my mouse off the "close" button to click "delete"…

The hidden close button is so dumb. Why make it so small and make it hide if I go 5 pixels away from the notification?

It’s one of the least user friendly patterns in the OS that I can think of off hand, yet one that I have to interact with dozens of times per day. It’s bizarre.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by thombles »

simondotau wrote: post #253
shawnz wrote: post #222

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They are grounded if you use the "power adapter extension cable" (not shipped with the unit): https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/MK122LL/A/power-adapte...

Why don't Apple offer grounded duckheads? For that matter, why haven't any third parties made grounded duckheads? This has been irritating me for the past decade or more. The ground connection, where available, occurs through the metal stud which the duckhead slides into. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even the UK (Type G) duckhead doesn't connect ground even though the physical ground pin is mandatory. I know that mos…

They used to, in Australia at least. I can't remember if it came with my iBook G4 or one of the Intels soon afterward, but out of the box I got both a two-prong stub that attaches directly to the brick and a ~1.5m cable that goes to a three-prong plug. I sold the original laptop long ago but kept the old grounded cable all the way up to my current work MBP. Personally the buzzing drives me nuts.

The first time I noticed it I was a bit worried about it all. I had a volt stick from work (a safety device to identify live wiring) and surprisingly it illuminated when I brought it near the metal chassis of my macbook. Some further tests with an oscilloscope showed that it was floating a good couple of hundred volts, but the capacitance was so low that the energy payload was never going to do any harm to a human. I don't care, I still just ground the thing.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by richeyryan »

hnarn wrote: post #481
dual_dingo wrote: post #473

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> I just upgraded to Monterey > I started to panic and figure out how I was going to back everything up. Upgrading to a new OS on release day without a prior backup. You like to live dangerously, do you?

This isn't Arch Linux we're talking about, it's the presumably tested and released operating system for the most premium personal computing hardware in the world. I'm not saying you shouldn't back up your stuff but your expectation on user behavior is unrealistic to put it mildly.

You don't update OSX before March in my experience. There are always teething issues.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by saagarjha »

aluminum96 wrote: post #477
ksec wrote: post #75

Sort of a mini review. Using it at home on my MacBook Pro 2015 Intel Machine. Big Sur on M1 was fine ( if not great ), mostly because M1 is extremely fast. But Big Sir on x86 was slow, really slow. I am in the group that reported Big Sur was slower than Catalina, and Catalina was slower than Mojave. That is with both the OS itself and Safari. So Big Sur was not a smooth experience for me. Monterey so far brings back…

> Far less Kernel_Task CPU usage This typically means the machine is thermally throttled, not that the kernel is actually using the CPU.

Contrary to popular belief, kernel_task actually has things it needs to do, and sometimes those use CPU time. It's not "typically" thermal throttling.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by seniorivn »

forgingahead wrote: post #499
hnarn wrote: post #481

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't Arch Linux we're talking about, it's the presumably tested and released operating system for the most premium personal computing hardware in the world. I'm not saying you shouldn't back up your stuff but your expectation on user behavior is unrealistic to put it mildly.

My expectation for user behaviour is that users, regardless of self-identified tech competency, shouldn't upgrade their OS on the first day of a new release. I find that there's nothing that one can miss out on with a new release.

what's the point of a release date if it's not ready? os upgrades do fail, and you better backup before you upgrade, but if it's released, than it means it's ready
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