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Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by anderspitman »

domh wrote: post #38

I recently did something like this myself with an RPi 4 and an external drive over USB to replace Google Photos (with PhotoPrism). For tunneling (and custom domain) I used cloudflared which works surprisingly well: https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflared . I wrote about it here: https://domh.dev/blog/replacing-google-photos-with-photopris... That being said, I love that someone is working on making this stuff easie…

Cloudflare Tunnels is currently my recommendation for most people. Not only is it free, it will also manage DNS records and HTTPS for you very easily.

My main concern is that when it comes to self-hosting photos and videos, that's against the TOS for Cloudflare's free tier. If enough people start using it I assume they'll crack down. Bandwidth isn't free.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by gonehome »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #68
brirec wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Wireguard doesn’t rely on someone’s cloud server, too! I looked into Tailscale because the hype is big, and I’m sure it’s good software… but the biggest reason I pay for a VPS is to get public IPv4 addresses I can connect to. A proxy will only add overhead and compromise privacy. Edit: specifically, Tailscale uses their own proprietary relay servers, and if you don’t want to use them you can’t use tailscale. ¯\_(…

> Edit: specifically, Tailscale uses their own proprietary relay servers, and if you don’t want to use them you can’t use tailscale. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This is incorrect [0]. You can use your own relay servers [0]. However, Tailscale only uses the relay servers as a last resort. Most of the time, the connection will be established directly between the peers. If you're able to configure port forwarding on your router as anothe…

I find it hard to model the flow of this stuff and it can be hard to get a sense reading through the product offerings, maybe I can ask and you'll know enough to give me an overview?

Currently I run a server on a digital ocean box I access via a custom domain with a let's encrypt cert (too much detail about this setup is here: https://zalberico.com/essay/2020/06/06/urbit-on-the-cloud.ht...). It'd be cool to have this run on my home Mac Mini and just access it from the web.

What is actually going on to require this? I still need the custom domain, but now that custom domain is routing somewhere else right? Either to some software that's still running on digital ocean that handles this (wireguard?) that I'd have to configure or some service that deals with this? What are the actual pieces that are required for this to work and if you wanted to do it and control it yourself what do you need to know to do it safely?

Any pointers in the right direction/high level explanation would be helpful - there are a lot of unknown unknowns when searching or just services you pay for that abstract it away with some tradeoff in control (at which point I might as well just leave it on digital ocean).

Thanks!

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by fulafel »

anderspitman wrote: post #18

Interesting. Usually my critique for products like this is something along the lines of "great, but how are you going to access your data from the internet?" Typically the answer to that is you need some sort of tunneling service like ngrok to get around port forwarding, CGNAT, firewalls, etc. I maintain a list of solutions here[0]. The problem with most of these services is that they're targeted at developers and ar…

Tunneling is a good fallback if you don't have working v6 or v4, but i disagree potential internet connectivity problems should be a critique of internet applications like like this.

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Post by [deleted] »

getcrunk wrote: post #66
erulabs wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're starting with technical users - if we can't get programmers to love home-hosting there isn't much hope for the average user. As we go, we're very focused on making sure people who have no idea what Debian is can make use of the product, but I'm sad to say we're not quite there yet.

What is the bandwidth available for the drives io?

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Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by revolvingocelot »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #39

I'm looking for something like this, but cheaper and for 3.5" drives. USD$250, plus shipping to Australia puts that just too high for what it offers. I own Synology NASs, but adding an expander for that is expensive. (AUD$800) The ODroid-HC4 looks promising, but their 'toaster' case design for it is awful, leaving the drives exposed and unable to put two atop each other. Ideally what I'd like is: - 1-2x 3.5" SATA dri…

After further poking around, I see that if one ponies up one's email and follows the (surprisingly dark-patterned) [0] "Sign Up & Customize" button [1], one can see the whole catalogue of planned PiBox hardware. It looks like you'd want the currently-unreleased "Box 2" -- assuming you could swallow the presumably still unpalatable shipping charges.

[0] OK, I get that these guys want to gauge interest as precisely as possible, given the frightening prospect of being a hardware startup during a chip shortage and/or burgeoning logistics apocalypse, but it's still a real eye-roller. Especially given how, like, cool this project otherwise seems.

[1] https://pibox.io/prefs <- note that without having already signed up, this'll bounce you to the homepage

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by geerlingguy »

getcrunk wrote: post #66
erulabs wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're starting with technical users - if we can't get programmers to love home-hosting there isn't much hope for the average user. As we go, we're very focused on making sure people who have no idea what Debian is can make use of the product, but I'm sad to say we're not quite there yet.

What is the bandwidth available for the drives io?

There's 1 PCIe gen 2 lane, so 5 Gbps theoretical. Real world 400 MB/sec r/w, or 120 over the 1 Gbps LAN.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by revolvingocelot »

antattack wrote: post #8

What's the price of this thing? Kickstarter prompts me to sign in before I can scroll down to see it.

Worth pointing out that for the (not necessarily Faustian) bargain of offering up your email to the "Sign Up & Customize" box, you can access what appears to be post-KS pricing for the planned PiBox fleet. There's a 2x3.5" version, as well as 5-drive SSD and 3.5" versions, the ability to choose which of the Pi CM4 variants you want, etc.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by normaler »

megous wrote: post #50
normaler wrote: post #48

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What kind oft write speeds do you get on zfs? I also have a rockpro64 with two 8tb WD red pro and in subvolumes with encryption i only get 70MB and in non encrypted 110MB. I already switched from aes256-gcm (the default) to aes256-ccm, since that is less taxing ob the CPU. I Start to get the feeling that zfs arm is not yet optimised enough.

`cryptsetup benchmark` shows me ~400-500 MiB/s (per core) for aes-xts-256 on slower rk3566 I guess it will be similar for gcm

Are you running zfs native encryption and zfs mirror/RAID or luks + mdadm with zfs in top?
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