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Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by MichaelBurge »

sliken wrote: post #2

I was hoping for a bit better performance. Any suggestions for similar that could max out 4-5 drives, maybe add a M.2/U.2 for caching (or 2), and handle 2.5 gbit ethernet?

I think you want a Synology or QNAP device at that point. I bought one of these for $550:

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/product/ts-932px

5 HDDs and 4 SSDs for caching, with 10gbit fiber or 2.5gbit ethernet.

I have 40 terabytes of storage in mine(21TB free). If I ever fill it up, I'll probably buy an actual storage server with ~500TB of drives.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by funkaster »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #39

I'm looking for something like this, but cheaper and for 3.5" drives. USD$250, plus shipping to Australia puts that just too high for what it offers. I own Synology NASs, but adding an expander for that is expensive. (AUD$800) The ODroid-HC4 looks promising, but their 'toaster' case design for it is awful, leaving the drives exposed and unable to put two atop each other. Ideally what I'd like is: - 1-2x 3.5" SATA dri…

I bought a rockpro64 and a NAS case with space for 4 drives, I added a 4xSATA PCIe card. Right now it's a 4x4TB ZFS setup that has been running as my own home storage for over a year continuously. Very happy with it.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by m0zg »

m0zg wrote: post #30

Pricing is on the nutty side. You can do a lot better than that for $250 nowadays, though it won't be as compact. That said, I'm looking for something like this but able to take 3.5" hard drives (2 of them) and at half the price. Doesn't need to be pretty or have a screen.

Actually, I was wrong when I said "it won't be as compact". It's even more compact: https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-hc4/. $73, 2 hard drives.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by shepherdjerred »

gonehome wrote: post #40
anderspitman wrote: post #18

Interesting. Usually my critique for products like this is something along the lines of "great, but how are you going to access your data from the internet?" Typically the answer to that is you need some sort of tunneling service like ngrok to get around port forwarding, CGNAT, firewalls, etc. I maintain a list of solutions here[0]. The problem with most of these services is that they're targeted at developers and ar…

I've heard good things about tailscale which does something magical I don't quite understand to get around NAT and allow access to your box in a secure way. I know (not so technical) people who have used it successfully.

I have no idea how Tailscale works, but it always does. I used to have a bastion host that I'd ssh into to access my home network. Now I just startup Tailscale and connect.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by sdenton4 »

anderspitman wrote: post #18

Interesting. Usually my critique for products like this is something along the lines of "great, but how are you going to access your data from the internet?" Typically the answer to that is you need some sort of tunneling service like ngrok to get around port forwarding, CGNAT, firewalls, etc. I maintain a list of solutions here[0]. The problem with most of these services is that they're targeted at developers and ar…

Well this makes it sound like it's targeted squarely at developers:

"Finally, a NAS that lets you use a standard operating system that you’re used to, like Ubuntu or Raspberry Pi OS."

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by rektide »

solarkraft wrote: post #32
rektide wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i have a systemd cron job (timer) that runs miniupnpc every couple minutes to ask the router to set up firewall rules that a box needs. for now i still manually update my home's dns records whenever there's a power outage and therefore new ip address. but i'll be building something dor dynamic dns soon enough. but a couple boxes also ssh into a vps, and forward their own ssh ports to the vps, so i can jump into them…

Damn, that you need to do all of that ... My router (FritzBox) allows selecting a device to forward specific ports from and even supports DynDNS.

i've maintained router side tables for years. i actually prefer just having devices able to set themselves up.

even if i go to a friends house with a system, it should have a good chance of configuring itself there too. that's one huge advantage. mostly though i just dont want the centealization, dont want to be thinking about configuring routers.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by normaler »

funkaster wrote: post #42
paranoidrobot wrote: post #39

I'm looking for something like this, but cheaper and for 3.5" drives. USD$250, plus shipping to Australia puts that just too high for what it offers. I own Synology NASs, but adding an expander for that is expensive. (AUD$800) The ODroid-HC4 looks promising, but their 'toaster' case design for it is awful, leaving the drives exposed and unable to put two atop each other. Ideally what I'd like is: - 1-2x 3.5" SATA dri…

I bought a rockpro64 and a NAS case with space for 4 drives, I added a 4xSATA PCIe card. Right now it's a 4x4TB ZFS setup that has been running as my own home storage for over a year continuously. Very happy with it.

What kind oft write speeds do you get on zfs?

I also have a rockpro64 with two 8tb WD red pro and in subvolumes with encryption i only get 70MB and in non encrypted 110MB. I already switched from aes256-gcm (the default) to aes256-ccm, since that is less taxing ob the CPU.

I Start to get the feeling that zfs arm is not yet optimised enough.

Re: PiBox Mini – Modular Raspberry Pi Storage Server

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Post by megous »

normaler wrote: post #48
funkaster wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a rockpro64 and a NAS case with space for 4 drives, I added a 4xSATA PCIe card. Right now it's a 4x4TB ZFS setup that has been running as my own home storage for over a year continuously. Very happy with it.

What kind oft write speeds do you get on zfs? I also have a rockpro64 with two 8tb WD red pro and in subvolumes with encryption i only get 70MB and in non encrypted 110MB. I already switched from aes256-gcm (the default) to aes256-ccm, since that is less taxing ob the CPU. I Start to get the feeling that zfs arm is not yet optimised enough.

`cryptsetup benchmark`

shows me ~400-500 MiB/s (per core) for aes-xts-256 on slower rk3566

I guess it will be similar for gcm

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