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Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by rewtraw »

Waterluvian wrote: post #121

I've been away from MacOS for about 10 years. Big Sur now. Kinda hate it. I keep accidentally invoking extra layers of UI everywhere. That's fine I guess. But what I ran into that I LOVE is making EVERY app full-screen, pretending there is no desktop or window management, and just swiping right/left among them. I wish there was a way to smooth out the UX so that this feels first-class and I stop accidentally breaking…

Honestly sounds like you might want an iPad.

I recently got one to use as a secondary display just for Slack /Discord/etc, but after connecting a trackpad & keyboard I totally fell in love. It's a very simplistic environment, but it's actually quite nice as an alternative to the full-blown macOS.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by deathanatos »

dkdk8283 wrote: post #66

Any of the awful UX functions been rolled back? Notifications and the bluetooth menus are an abomination.

Just having functional bluetooth would be nice? Bluetooth on my MBP recently decided to turn "off", and clicking/sliding the on/off slider just does nothing. The slider doesn't move to "on", and I get no feedback, errors, information or anything about why I can't re-enable it.

Prior to that BT devices would just drop the connection, AFAICT.

Bi-directional file transfer has never worked properly.

And that's only BT…

IDK what's actually that bad about the BT menu UI though? The recent UX changes on notifications have been bad, though. Especially where sometimes clicking the X doesn't dismiss the notification. (There's some bait&switch b/c there's like multiple notifications stacked up… or something.) And that (for a while now) Calendar hasn't reliably notified me, which has been great, as it results in lateness to meetings, since there's no longer an office mate to say "hey, it's time".

Re: macOS Monterey

#133

Post by xu_ituairo »

beders wrote: post #116

It is frustrating to see how stagnant desktop OS's have become. Both macOS and Windows 11 have added incremental features that are surely nice to have, but no one dares to improve on the human-computer-interaction which has remained the same for decades now. With the advances in AI and the ridiculous compute power of modern CPUs, we should be able to have OSs that are Digital Assistants. Just one example: - file mana…

As you say, we're getting exactly these advances with phone and tablet OSs. iPads are becoming a dream appliance in the ways you mention and capture 90% of the average person's computing needs.

Regular computers have to maintain some backward compatibility and it's nice for power users to still be allowed to fiddle with file extensions and system internals.

Re: macOS Monterey

#134

Post by ASinclair »

xu_ituairo wrote: post #80
brink wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was hoping someone would mention this. Shoving everything into a sub-menu made device statuses invisible and involved extra clicks to interact with them. It's user-hostile design.

Did you know you can drag the controls out onto the menu bar?

This just saved me several minutes every day. Thank you!

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by Waterluvian »

X6S1x6Okd1st wrote: post #129
Waterluvian wrote: post #121

I've been away from MacOS for about 10 years. Big Sur now. Kinda hate it. I keep accidentally invoking extra layers of UI everywhere. That's fine I guess. But what I ran into that I LOVE is making EVERY app full-screen, pretending there is no desktop or window management, and just swiping right/left among them. I wish there was a way to smooth out the UX so that this feels first-class and I stop accidentally breaking…

Funny, I hate that aspect

Behold why UIs get super bloated over time. Users can want entirely different things. =)

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by temac »

comeonseriously wrote: post #11
lghh wrote: post #8

Funny that they used a very clunky looking Windows laptop and a pretty dated looking Android phone to show off Facetime.

I get that you want to show your own products in their best light, but this is just petty and beneath them.

About showing their products in the best light, it seems they also chose to limit the view of the notch of their brand new MBP to one (kind of small) picture... among pictures of 30 devices.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by Waterluvian »

rewtraw wrote: post #131
Waterluvian wrote: post #121

I've been away from MacOS for about 10 years. Big Sur now. Kinda hate it. I keep accidentally invoking extra layers of UI everywhere. That's fine I guess. But what I ran into that I LOVE is making EVERY app full-screen, pretending there is no desktop or window management, and just swiping right/left among them. I wish there was a way to smooth out the UX so that this feels first-class and I stop accidentally breaking…

Honestly sounds like you might want an iPad. I recently got one to use as a secondary display just for Slack /Discord/etc, but after connecting a trackpad & keyboard I totally fell in love. It's a very simplistic environment, but it's actually quite nice as an alternative to the full-blown macOS.

Hmm. Not a crazy idea. simplification is appealing to me. But I’m guessing it’s still not really a computer? Can I get iterm2 with bash and vscode and rust?

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by Jtsummers »

Waterluvian wrote: post #137
rewtraw wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly sounds like you might want an iPad. I recently got one to use as a secondary display just for Slack /Discord/etc, but after connecting a trackpad & keyboard I totally fell in love. It's a very simplistic environment, but it's actually quite nice as an alternative to the full-blown macOS.

Hmm. Not a crazy idea. simplification is appealing to me. But I’m guessing it’s still not really a computer? Can I get iterm2 with bash and vscode and rust?

> Can I get iterm2 with bash and vscode and rust?

Not really. The best dev experience I have with the iPad is using Blink to mosh into (the mobility mosh offers over SSH is key for me) a server, which lets me run whatever I want on it. But if you're developing GUI applications, it's not really that great.

You can use something like Working Copy for git and Textastic for editing programs on the iPad, but it's not really a proper IDE (even a light IDE) just a syntax aware editor. If I'm not using emacs on the server, I use those for my code editing purposes.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by billiam »

This is so limited. Where is the boldness? Five years ago I thought we would be at MaciOS by now. Precision with a gestural capability.
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