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Re: macOS Monterey

#121

Post by Waterluvian » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:45 PM UTC

I've been away from MacOS for about 10 years. Big Sur now. Kinda hate it. I keep accidentally invoking extra layers of UI everywhere. That's fine I guess.

But what I ran into that I LOVE is making EVERY app full-screen, pretending there is no desktop or window management, and just swiping right/left among them.

I wish there was a way to smooth out the UX so that this feels first-class and I stop accidentally breaking this illusion at times.

Re: macOS Monterey

#122

Post by concinds » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:46 PM UTC

SharePlay to Mac (I tested audio) is utterly broken. Shockingly so. I just tried it again, and my music isn't paused, yet is stuck at 0:02. Pausing and unpausing it, and the song starts ticking, 0:03, 0:04, and so on, but you can't hear any audio. Pause it again. It goes back to 0:02. Now try this with AirPods connected to your Mac. Connect your iPhone's Apple Music to AirPlay to Mac. The YouTube video you had playing on your Mac gets paused, for no reason. But at least you hear your iPhone's audio on your Mac. Now pickup your iPhone. Your AirPods have now switched to your iPhone, that's still AirPlaying to Mac. You can't hear your music anymore. You reconnect the AirPods to your Mac. You can hear your iPhone music for a few minutes. Suddenly you can't hear anything. Pick up your phone, the volume slider in the Music app went all the way to the left. You can't move the volume slider to the right, like it's frozen; but the song is still playing. You go to Control Center, and finally manage to increase the volume. A minute later, the volume goes to zero again. If you were hoping to compensate for Spotify Connect not being on Apple Music, you'll be disappointed.

Also, Safari has a bug that ignores your setting to not reopen non-private windows, and reopens them anyway, so if that's important to you, you may want to temporarily switch to another browser.

And yes, it still has the "occasionally laggy trackpad cursor" bug on M1 for me.

But other than that, it seems quite a bit faster than Big Sur, and so far (past 2 weeks), very stable on the core stuff.

Re: macOS Monterey

#123

Post by TameAntelope » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:46 PM UTC

Jtsummers wrote: post #114

TameAntelope wrote: post #97

I'm not sure I need yet another macOS version, feels like they've opted for a more frequent release cycle. I (genuinely) wonder why...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_version_history#Releases They've been released pretty close to every 11-13 months since 10.7, which was nearly 2 years after 10.6. That happened a decade ago now, so it's not something that's changed recently.

Oh man, I should have looked this up before commenting. Really feels shorter, but yeah the data is right there.

Re: macOS Monterey

#124

Post by lostgame » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:47 PM UTC

beermonster wrote: post #98

Given how stable Big Sur was until 11.15.6 I don't think I'll be hastily upgrading! [Edited]

I think you mean Catalina? That was 10.15. Big Sur was 11.

Re: macOS Monterey

#125

Post by fire » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:47 PM UTC

xu_ituairo wrote: post #80

brink wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was hoping someone would mention this. Shoving everything into a sub-menu made device statuses invisible and involved extra clicks to interact with them. It's user-hostile design.

Did you know you can drag the controls out onto the menu bar?

holy shit

Re: macOS Monterey

#126

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:47 PM UTC

beders wrote: post #116

It is frustrating to see how stagnant desktop OS's have become. Both macOS and Windows 11 have added incremental features that are surely nice to have, but no one dares to improve on the human-computer-interaction which has remained the same for decades now. With the advances in AI and the ridiculous compute power of modern CPUs, we should be able to have OSs that are Digital Assistants. Just one example: - file mana…

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Re: macOS Monterey

#127

Post by jorts » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:48 PM UTC

xu_ituairo wrote: post #80

brink wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was hoping someone would mention this. Shoving everything into a sub-menu made device statuses invisible and involved extra clicks to interact with them. It's user-hostile design.

Did you know you can drag the controls out onto the menu bar?

You just blew my mind. Thank you!

Re: macOS Monterey

#128

Post by Jtsummers » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:48 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #120

Article reads like an ad.

It is an ad. It's on Apple's website advertising their new OS release.

Re: macOS Monterey

#129

Post by X6S1x6Okd1st » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:49 PM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #121

I've been away from MacOS for about 10 years. Big Sur now. Kinda hate it. I keep accidentally invoking extra layers of UI everywhere. That's fine I guess. But what I ran into that I LOVE is making EVERY app full-screen, pretending there is no desktop or window management, and just swiping right/left among them. I wish there was a way to smooth out the UX so that this feels first-class and I stop accidentally breaking…

Funny, I hate that aspect

Re: macOS Monterey

#130

Post by nsonha » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 9:50 PM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #121

I've been away from MacOS for about 10 years. Big Sur now. Kinda hate it. I keep accidentally invoking extra layers of UI everywhere. That's fine I guess. But what I ran into that I LOVE is making EVERY app full-screen, pretending there is no desktop or window management, and just swiping right/left among them. I wish there was a way to smooth out the UX so that this feels first-class and I stop accidentally breaking…

I think window management in Mac leaves much to be desired (hot key and snapping floating windows). But associate fullscreeen window/split with a new workspace is actually one thing it does right. I installed an addon on Gnome just to emulate that.

Split is kind of useless with an ultrawide monitor though, I wish it was 3 columns