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It is tiring. Even more so for me as I joined remotely a few months ago in my new job. Knew 0 people in the new company!
Having the camera on is not a requirement for doing actual work. It can be nice to see your fellow coworkers, but it's no substitution for an actual physical meeting. Having worked both in a remote and office setting, i much prefer the latter as it makes for better relations and getting to know people. I guess remote work is just not for everyone.
The fatiguing effects of camera use in virtual meetings
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#72The fatigue comes in several forms: physical, experiential, psychological.
Physical as in the act of being seating in poor posture, for long hours at a time and how this makes us feel.
Experiential as in the act of seeing someone on a laptop screen as we are hunched over, they are dithered and the lighting is poor and they sound (their mic + my laptop speakers) muddied and unreal.
Psychological as trust, empathy, rapport is founded on presence and connectivity, being able to communicate using gestures, body language, expressions... and how these are all muted or eradicated by the above two.
It is addressable but it doesn't come for free.
The article tested camera on vs camera off, but not the quality of the experience offered by camera on. Similarly the quality of the experience offered by the audio feels to be even more important than that of the video. To continue their experiment to an extreme... meetings where both the video and audio off wouldn't be fatiguing at all :D
To address my experiential side I started with a good microphone, then a better camera, then better (more neutral) speakers. Lighting and positioning of the desk to improve my health as well as how natural I look. For the physical a sit stand desk that I actually do use multiple times per day, and some Birkenstocks help too - I stand for about 1/3 of meetings, and I always keep a bottle of water on the desk.
I'm in an engineering leadership role and it's not unusual for me to do 6+ hours of meetings in any given day.
At the start of the pandemic I had a lot of exhaustion from such meetings, but where I am now having overhauled my setup and my thinking about it is very different and I find that I really do feel connected and restored through seeing people (I'm more an introvert, and this form now feels like being an extrovert... it's a form of meeting people that I can do).
As with anything, seek to understand the fatigue, seek to see how you can overcome it. It doesn't need a big shopping spree, I tweaked one thing every month or two until it all fell into place.
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#73The whole idea of having a virtual meeting is to interact with people, the alternative is called a voice call or telephone conference.
Virtual meetings are fatiguing, but they aren't nearly as fatiguing as the pre-COVID alternatives: flying in to some different EU capital once every week and staying in hotels. So I'm pretty happy with the way travel has moved to virtual meetings, it saves me at least two days every week besides the irritation of being on the move all the time.
If you can't be bothered to have your camera on in meetings then you probably shouldn't be in that meeting in the first place. There is nothing more annoying than to have an in-person meeting from the past devolve into staring at a wall of stills or icons and then to figure out who says what and to keep a conversation going. Virtual meetings aren't perfect, but if you put some time and effort in they can be an efficiency improvement over real ones.
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#74But I do agree that turning on camera constantly is tiring thing. I thought turning off the camera in the meeting can be considered rude but now I've changed my mind. I wish there were a middle ground for having a language cue in the conversation while the camera is off.
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#75> following a day of virtual meetings I've done full days of real meetings. Those were exhausting and very draining. I'm surprised that anybody would expect anything different from virtual meetings. I have noticed that it's harder to feel people as fully human when they're little 2D movies. Even moreso when they're disembodied voices. It's less so when I've met the people IRL. I'm guessing I can then link their image…
Some context: I'm a lead engineer on a team with six products. I keep my camera off in meetings. I'm in far more meetings than I can possibly be productive in. I'm also usually not the active speaker in meetings. Why stare into a camera when what my yearly bonuses are calculated on is work/team output? I've found most meetings I get into are either: - Developers who can't figure something out from documentation and a…
Maybe it's a symptom they miss human contact.
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#76Where I work there are basically two types of meeting, one for mass participation (> 10 people) when a few are speaking and most are listening, and one for small team discussion, which tend to be focussed on screen sharing one or more person's screen. Neither of those need a camera. When meetings are 1-1, or maybe < 5, then they make sense, but I don't really feel the need for them otherwise.
I also don't find cameras necessary, but me and some other people I know find that long 1-1 meetings with the camera turned off feels like a prolonged phone call, which is extremely tiring for people who also dislike long phone calls.
Short camera-less meetings with quick, focused, telephone-like discussions are perfectly fine, of course. But if one of the parties has to keep going into a computer type a bunch of stuff in-between all the time, it suddenly feels like I'm trying to cancel my cable or newspaper subscription.
It's better to have notes and do it later, or at lest share the screen, rather than only using 5 minutes out of 30 for actual talking.
I found that some people who use Discord audio chats are used to having calls like that, but I'd check with the other person if they're ok before.
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#77We are pretty small and have a 'camera on' policy for our one one hour meeting on Friday every week, and if you don't want to have your camera on you are asked not to participate, and an eight hour interview day every Tuesday. The only exception is for observers present during the meeting (for instance: customer representatives that do not have anything to contribute but are just there to listen and make their own no…
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#78We are pretty small and have a 'camera on' policy for our one one hour meeting on Friday every week, and if you don't want to have your camera on you are asked not to participate, and an eight hour interview day every Tuesday. The only exception is for observers present during the meeting (for instance: customer representatives that do not have anything to contribute but are just there to listen and make their own no…
Interviews, granted, getting to know a person it’s good to see a face.
For most meetings a voice call is sufficient, for those meetings where a voice call is not sufficient you probably want an in-person meeting with a whiteboard anyway
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#79We are pretty small and have a 'camera on' policy for our one one hour meeting on Friday every week, and if you don't want to have your camera on you are asked not to participate, and an eight hour interview day every Tuesday. The only exception is for observers present during the meeting (for instance: customer representatives that do not have anything to contribute but are just there to listen and make their own no…
So I never turn on my camera, and neither do many other people in the team, and everything is fine.
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#80Zoom should add a pause button. Freeze the camera, people can see your face but it doesnt have to be live. Or use a photo instead
Some people failed to notice, but for those who did it was a bit like uncanny valley.