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NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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On the other hand, perhaps the hardware/OS designs of iOS and Android devices are fundamentally flawed, when viewed from a security-first perspective.

This is definitely part of the problem. But the fundamental flaw is the departure from simplicity. The solution is to have a processor that is so simple that it cant do more then what you expect, and building the tools to make the unexpected stand out. However, there is a bigger market for a processor with 3 extra layers of root access to ensure your boss can spy on you and Disney&Co really want this to be the norm.

You’re making this out to be far easier than it really is, to the point of being an armchair commentator. People want phones that can call and text and shoot perfect video and play demanding games. All of this necessitates complexity. The average dumbphone is far less complex than an iPhone but it’s obvious which one people want. (And, I should also note that “simplicity” doesn’t necessarily mean “security”: people have found bugs in ridiculously small pieces of code. The rest of your comment of making “the unexpected stand out” is similar in intent to “just find the viruses bro, how hard can it be?”)

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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Great rec! This is one of my favorite technical podcasts. The host does a great job getting into the technical details of the subjects while still appealing to non-techincal listeners. It's really impressive.

Subbed. Any other recos? Been looking to scratch that Reply All itch.

Malicious Life is pretty good, so is Security Now

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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I just go solid opaque bar. Way easier to do and harder to screw up.

Amusingly enough, people have even screwed this up. I recall some government agency trying to censor data with a black bar, but the problem was that the data was in a SVG-like document, so people could just delete the bars from the document and see the apparently-censored text.

I believe the US government did this at least once, by implementing the black bars in a PDF as a separate object, so the unredacted item was intact in the files they shared.

Whoops.

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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"And the US and England" When you are doing the information from the inside thing, you do need to get your players in line. England? I'm English ... and Welsh, Cornish, Scottish and tangentially Irish, not to mention German (check my username). The country is called Britain, the Great thing is only to distinguish from the other Britain - Brittany (part of France). You might as well call everyone from the USA as Texan…

> I'm English ... and Welsh, Cornish, Scottish and tangentially Irish, not to mention German (check my username). Sorry, but this is absolutely nonsensical to me, how can you be all these nationalities? Were you born on the most insane round trip flight ever or what? Edit: And sorry, as a Scot (One actually born there); 'the country' is not called 'Great Britain'. As a nationality we group identify as both $member-co…

It actually sounds like the sort of lineage that is very common among Americans.

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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Why aren't political exposed persons leaving iphones? It has been known for a while that it is not secure for them. An android tablet connecting to wifi hotspots only, or even lan only, with minimal software, and a dumb phone are more secure than iphone.

What!? You’re statement is really wrong. Android tablets on hotspots only??? What?

When disagreeing with someone, it's usually courteous to explain why you think they are wrong.

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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So how do we protect our privacy from the advance of technology? It doesn't seem possible. Just going after NSO is useless.

It depends on what your threat model is. If its individuals, local law enforcement, or even national law enforcement (context dependent) you are trying to hide from, you can obtain phones with cash and make it very difficult to link them to you (use a sim card bought with cash and never give out that number, use a VOIP service for your primary number, use an OS that doesn't send back much telemetry, turn off location…

>use a sim card bought with cash and never give out that number

This is near impossible now. I tried a few years ago to get an anonymous phone to activate an anonymous twitter account and you have to provide too much information to activate the sim card across the major providers and other companies that use their infrastructure.

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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I just go solid opaque bar. Way easier to do and harder to screw up.

Amusingly enough, people have even screwed this up. I recall some government agency trying to censor data with a black bar, but the problem was that the data was in a SVG-like document, so people could just delete the bars from the document and see the apparently-censored text.

It would be funny to place fake data behind the removable bars for tech savvy people to find.

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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I just go solid opaque bar. Way easier to do and harder to screw up.

Amusingly enough, people have even screwed this up. I recall some government agency trying to censor data with a black bar, but the problem was that the data was in a SVG-like document, so people could just delete the bars from the document and see the apparently-censored text.

This has happened with PDFs many, many times.

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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I feel like phones should just have a "scrub anything that isn't ASCII text" option for paranoid folks. No unicode, no emoji, no media. I mean, I guess they could still f*ck that up, and maybe it'd be admitting defeat, but still.

This necessarily excludes people whose primary language for communication does not fit in a Latin alphabet.

Terribly inconvenient and a bad idea-- yes. Necessarily excludes-- no. I don't know anything about cuneiform, but if a secure, ubiquitous messenger only accepted that as input I would be counted as one of its users.

Hell, GPG isn't fit for any human users. Yet Debian is still able to hand-crank a extant web-of-trust off of it.

Re: NYT journalist hacked with Pegasus after reporting on previous hacking attempts

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His confinement to the Embassy of Equador since 2010 amply qualify as both imprisonment and torture [0]. If you like to argue that it does not literally qualify then I suggest you don't in the interest of not wasting everybody's time. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-48473898

>His confinement to the Embassy of Equador since 2010 Assange, as a bail jumper and fugitive, requested and received asylum from Ecuador. He could have, at any time, left the Ecuadorian embassy. In fact, had he done so, he'd likely have been investigated, prosecuted and potentially convicted of the charges against him. Had that come to pass, it's entirely likely that Assange would have completed any sentence of incar…

Except for the part where the CIA had plans to extrajudically assassinate him.

>“That the CIA also conspired to seek the rendition and extrajudicial assassination of Julian Assange is a state-sponsored crime against the press,” she added.

>In response, the CIA and the White House began preparing for a number of scenarios to foil Assange’s Russian departure plans, according to three former officials. Those included potential gun battles with Kremlin operatives on the streets of London, crashing a car into a Russian diplomatic vehicle transporting Assange and then grabbing him, and shooting out the tires of a Russian plane carrying Assange before it could take off for Moscow. (U.S. officials asked their British counterparts to do the shooting if gunfire was required, and the British agreed, according to a former senior administration official.)

Saying he could've just come out at any time is absurd.

https://news.yahoo.com/kidnapping-assassination-and-a-london...

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