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Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by wly_cdgr »

DaveExeter wrote: post #284
wly_cdgr wrote: post #280

I don't think it's possible for something to have less sex appeal than an online advertising scam named after a star wars character

Do code names have to be sexy? I think they were riffing off 'Have Blue'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Have_Blue

Yes, but also, I'm talking about the thing as a whole, not so much the codename. The codename just makes it even worse, like calling a frontend developer a ninja makes the fact that you're wasting the best years of your life building forms and brochures even more depressing

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Post by ec109685 »

braveyellowtoad wrote: post #67
aasasd wrote: post #43

> Re: forced Chrome logins. Don't need cookies if you own the browser! ( https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/145209451374118912... ) The swindle with FLOC was pretty obviously tied in this, but people still went in circles discussing whether it's private or not, and downvoting those who said FLOC is a trap. Let's consult the plan, nothing is even secret about this: - Google disables third-party cookies, crippli…

Woah, so if a user is logged into chrome, Google has permission / is able to track all web activity for that user?

Yes, if you have this option enabled, “Automatically send usage statistics and crash reports to Google”

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Post by tmccrary55 »

stackbutterflow wrote: post #244
lamontcg wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone reading this on Chrome should switch their browser today. Get off of Gmail while you're at it. There is no perfect alternative, but all those reasons why you think you can't switch don't add up to anything a fraction as bad as what Google is doing.

What's a good alternative to gmail? Fastmail? Protonmail? Other? I don't mind paying a small subscription.

I have a paid protonmail account but haven't fully switched because the search feature is abysmal.

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Post by monopoledance »

whimsicalism wrote: post #275
monopoledance wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incentivize the economy to not overproduce bullshit ad nauseam. Vote with your wallet, and push for it culturally, or spiritually - offer alternative experiences and goals to consumerism. Stop working for companies producing products nobody asked for, which are made for “economic growth” as a goal in it self. (If your factual constraints allow for it.) As long as there is this enormous pressure to sell you ever more…

Platitudes. > Stop working for companies producing products nobody asked for What is this in reference to? Nobody asked for Google to create their ad marketplace? No, there is huge demand for and complicity with targeted ads among millions of small businesses.

Working for Google and Facebook has other ethical implications…. but that’s not what I was referring to.

> huge demand

That’s my point.

Stop working for those small and big businesses in need of pushing solutions to problems they invented.

Tho, you seem to imply an ideological/apologetical take on the economy, which isn’t exactly helpful, in any case. The tautology “it exists because it exists” can comfortably offer absolution for anything and anyone, because no one is in control, no one has responsibility. I get the appeal for coping, but it’s a self-fulfilling-prophecy at best, religious glorification of apathy at worst. It is not, however, the inherent nature of things.

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Post by addingnumbers »

tmccrary55 wrote: post #293
stackbutterflow wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's a good alternative to gmail? Fastmail? Protonmail? Other? I don't mind paying a small subscription.

I have a paid protonmail account but haven't fully switched because the search feature is abysmal.

Their spam detection is true garbage. One year in I had zero actual spams blocked and hundreds of false positives.

Unsolicited mail from a direct mailer in India for an SEO webinar, straight to the inbox. Every message from your bank, straight to the spam folder.

Am I sure it didn't catch some spam and age it out before I saw it? Yes, because I had to go in every 2-3 weeks to pull my banking messages and other false positives out. A process which invariably went "Open Junk folder, Look for spam, Find none, Check All, Move to Inbox."

Here's the kicker, there's no option to even turn spam filtering off. It took me five cycles with the support team to get them to offer an inscrutable sieve filter that would disable filtering if I pasted it exactly right in an unvalidated free text field.

(The second-to-last agent told me there is a way to do it with sieve filters and then closed the ticket without saying how, so I had to open another ticket asking if they would kindly share the solution they coyly hinted at.)

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Post by jareklupinski »

qnsi wrote: post #8

What can we as people in top 1% with 1) information about big tech abuses 2) skills to fix this do? Individually we can use browsers like firefox or brave and probably donate time or money to them, but I think it's not enough. I think we would need something like a movement against those abuses, but probably the biggest win would be a business model that could win with them in the free market. Is this possible? Has a…

individually we need to stop working for unethical companies

we are the ones building these tools, reading these articles / comments sections, and talking with our colleagues and friends working on developing these products

we just have to accept that our takehome might not be as large at the end of the pay-cycle. feels better spending it tho :)

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Post by kolme »

stackbutterflow wrote: post #244
lamontcg wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone reading this on Chrome should switch their browser today. Get off of Gmail while you're at it. There is no perfect alternative, but all those reasons why you think you can't switch don't add up to anything a fraction as bad as what Google is doing.

What's a good alternative to gmail? Fastmail? Protonmail? Other? I don't mind paying a small subscription.

I recommend Posteo!

https://posteo.de/en

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Post by klyrs »

qnsi wrote: post #8

What can we as people in top 1% with 1) information about big tech abuses 2) skills to fix this do? Individually we can use browsers like firefox or brave and probably donate time or money to them, but I think it's not enough. I think we would need something like a movement against those abuses, but probably the biggest win would be a business model that could win with them in the free market. Is this possible? Has a…

Protecting the top %.01 appears to be just about the only thing that both parties can agree on.

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Post by denton-scratch »

cyborgx7 wrote: post #53
Closi wrote: post #48

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> When was the last time you clicked on one of these ads and actually made a purchase? Also how often are the metrics inflated by people who were going to purchase anyway? I was booking a holiday yesterday and knew the company I wanted to book from - I typed in their name and clicked on the top result as that was the company I wanted. When I clicked back I noticed that they had the top two results - the first was an…

I read a lot of companies buy advertising specifically for their own name, because if they don't, a competitor will, and will appear first when someone googles the company name.

Surely that's fraud.

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Post by mdoms »

stackbutterflow wrote: post #255
dqpb wrote: post #146

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With about $100b net worth each, I’m going to guess they feel just fine.

That's the thing though. They don't need more money. So why not try to make the world a better place for once? I know they donate to charity but they're uniquely well positioned to influence one of the biggest, and most dangerous, tech company on the planet. I wonder. Do they care? Do they have personal problems that makes the rest seem insignificant? Or do they believe they're truly making the world better?

That's not how rich people think. Very high levels of wealth and influence literally rewires the brain. They are simply bad people and always will be.
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