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Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Welp, it's time to de-google my networks then. Facebook traffic is already blocked, now I wonder how much Web content I will lose when I block all google traffic.

Not much except websites blocked by reCAPTCHA. Which are quite numerous unfortunately, including free software based services like element.io.

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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What we found at a previous employer through extensive testing: advertising on Facebook works pretty well, but the highest return on ad spend was to not use any of the demographic tools at all. Also, weirdly, having an attractive product and displaying it well in photo and video ads did very well. Almost as if there is no real magic trick of effectiveness at all.

For us google ads was insane. I d encourage Google to keep record on everyone and everything after having seen how incredible their client to business matching is: as a small company, in a niche b2b product (waste management software), we got big name random calls days after starting to pay Google. In another company we spent millions on Facebook and got relatively little out of it (predatory lending marketing), we h…

You brag about having success advertising a predatory lending product?

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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It's quite simple why people do Twitter threads. It's all about the stats for themselves. Everyone wants to be internet famous

I imagine you're probably right. But I still don't understand - why not have a single Tweet, with a summary of a blog post running on your own domain? Wouldn't that make you even more internet famous?

How many people actually click on links from Twitter vs just continue to scroll on past? Maybe "s/internet famous/twitter famous/"

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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This could also be via dns records if you published some they would get scanned

Also, doesnt chrome hijack DNS to point to googles DNS servers?

Unless you've enabled DoH, it shouldn't.

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

#175

Hello advertisers. You are being manipulated and abused just like the consumers you are targeting. There is very little evidence to show that invasive digital advertising is actually effective. When was the last time you clicked on one of these ads and actually made a purchase? Bad for consumers and bad for advertisers. Why continue with this opaque, profit sucking charade that mainly enriches those selling the ads?

The thing is people assume everybody that is browsing is like your average hackernews user. But my mom for example continuously clicks on those ads on Facebook. I my self sometimes click on ads that shows some tooling usually I then go to Alibaba and find the unlabeled tool for like 1/3 the price drop shippers or asking.

I agree, reading these comments I get a sense of tunnel vision among tech-literate people. I used to work in IT and it is not hyperbole to say that average content consumers click on almost every even vaguely appealing ad put in front of them.

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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F Twitter threads. Seriously... just... stop. It's worth noting with all the revelations in the last couple of days, that at least some of them aren't new. For example: - "Jedi Blue: A Scandal That Highlights, Yet Again, The Need To Regulate Big Tech" (19 Jan 2021) [1] - "Facebook and Google allegedly cut a deal that reduced ad competition" (17 Jan 2021) [2] - "Google acknowledges it foresaw possibility of probe of '…

Twitter threads are like powerpoint for people even dumber than powerpoint is for.

I think they're fine if you have lots of information to digest and you want to see tidbits about something else.

I came across this thread on my Twitter, was interested, so read parts of the linked complaint myself. I don't see what is bad about that?

Now, linking to the thread on HN seems dumb, I'd prefer something long form.

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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I expect bots on a new unadvertised site within minutes. I've seen it many times. Bots are always scanning, along with script kiddies.

It is far more likely that Google found the new site from telemetry from Chrome than it is a random bot, owned by Google scanned the site within seconds.

Google also runs their own public DNS servers which afaik Chrome defaults to. They can just sit server side waiting for DNS lookups of domains they've never seen before and queue them up for the Google bot. No browser telemetry needed.

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

#179

It’s interesting that only republican states are holding google accountable on all this.

The other ones are welcoming the help of the blue Jedi… that’s how they “saved” the 2020 election.
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