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Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by dylan604 »

cletus wrote: post #133

F Twitter threads. Seriously... just... stop. It's worth noting with all the revelations in the last couple of days, that at least some of them aren't new. For example: - "Jedi Blue: A Scandal That Highlights, Yet Again, The Need To Regulate Big Tech" (19 Jan 2021) [1] - "Facebook and Google allegedly cut a deal that reduced ad competition" (17 Jan 2021) [2] - "Google acknowledges it foresaw possibility of probe of '…

It's quite simple why people do Twitter threads. It's all about the stats for themselves. Everyone wants to be internet famous

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by criddell »

corobo wrote: post #122
jqpabc123 wrote: post #4

Hello advertisers. You are being manipulated and abused just like the consumers you are targeting. There is very little evidence to show that invasive digital advertising is actually effective. When was the last time you clicked on one of these ads and actually made a purchase? Bad for consumers and bad for advertisers. Why continue with this opaque, profit sucking charade that mainly enriches those selling the ads?

> There is very little evidence to show that invasive digital advertising is actually effective Wish.com would heavily disagree with you I'm sure. Almost everyone I know has ordered at least one thing off them, some use it more than Amazon these days for their overpriced useless junk needs

Where do they advertise? I've never heard of them...

When I go to the website I can't see anything without logging in. What do they sell?

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by dls2016 »

cletus wrote: post #133

F Twitter threads. Seriously... just... stop. It's worth noting with all the revelations in the last couple of days, that at least some of them aren't new. For example: - "Jedi Blue: A Scandal That Highlights, Yet Again, The Need To Regulate Big Tech" (19 Jan 2021) [1] - "Facebook and Google allegedly cut a deal that reduced ad competition" (17 Jan 2021) [2] - "Google acknowledges it foresaw possibility of probe of '…

Twitter threads are like powerpoint for people even dumber than powerpoint is for.

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by mcrae »

mabbo wrote: post #11

It takes two things for programs like "Jedi Blue" to happen. First, you need sociopaths in leadership positions who champion this 'great idea' they've figured out. These people often rise up in large companies because they are willing to do this sort of thing without any remorse. But second, you need developers to build it. A large number of them, usually, for a big project like this. Dozens of people like us knew th…

All this presupposes that what the AG has written is correct, and that what happened was actually illegal. Generally a court of law decides that.

Since none of this has been proven, maybe it would be prudent not to throw all of the folks who work there under the sociopath or coward bus?

A cursory reading belies the authors don’t fully understand the mechanics of the industry (eg, the broken analogy comparing an ad exchange to a stock exchange), so I’ll reserve judgement personally.

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by avaldes »

hamilyon2 wrote: post #98

I sometimes wonder, what if there was a universal governing principle, that was simple to enforce, obvious, formulated in few words, so that everyone understands it. All those priveleges which every of theese corporations enjoy, some simple, like not publishing schematic for 1000$+ device, some complex, like making backroom deals harming millions of people in a some insignificant and obscure way daily, like showing c…

I got it: "don't be evil"

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

cletus wrote: post #133

F Twitter threads. Seriously... just... stop. It's worth noting with all the revelations in the last couple of days, that at least some of them aren't new. For example: - "Jedi Blue: A Scandal That Highlights, Yet Again, The Need To Regulate Big Tech" (19 Jan 2021) [1] - "Facebook and Google allegedly cut a deal that reduced ad competition" (17 Jan 2021) [2] - "Google acknowledges it foresaw possibility of probe of '…

> - "Facebook and Google allegedly cut a deal that reduced ad competition" (17 Jan 2021) [2]

something, something, cartel...

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by blowski »

dylan604 wrote: post #161
cletus wrote: post #133

F Twitter threads. Seriously... just... stop. It's worth noting with all the revelations in the last couple of days, that at least some of them aren't new. For example: - "Jedi Blue: A Scandal That Highlights, Yet Again, The Need To Regulate Big Tech" (19 Jan 2021) [1] - "Facebook and Google allegedly cut a deal that reduced ad competition" (17 Jan 2021) [2] - "Google acknowledges it foresaw possibility of probe of '…

It's quite simple why people do Twitter threads. It's all about the stats for themselves. Everyone wants to be internet famous

I imagine you're probably right. But I still don't understand - why not have a single Tweet, with a summary of a blog post running on your own domain? Wouldn't that make you even more internet famous?

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by gfodor »

dylan604 wrote: post #161
cletus wrote: post #133

F Twitter threads. Seriously... just... stop. It's worth noting with all the revelations in the last couple of days, that at least some of them aren't new. For example: - "Jedi Blue: A Scandal That Highlights, Yet Again, The Need To Regulate Big Tech" (19 Jan 2021) [1] - "Facebook and Google allegedly cut a deal that reduced ad competition" (17 Jan 2021) [2] - "Google acknowledges it foresaw possibility of probe of '…

It's quite simple why people do Twitter threads. It's all about the stats for themselves. Everyone wants to be internet famous

“Internet famous” russell conjugates to “having what you say be heard.”

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Post by slimsag »

blowski wrote: post #167
dylan604 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's quite simple why people do Twitter threads. It's all about the stats for themselves. Everyone wants to be internet famous

I imagine you're probably right. But I still don't understand - why not have a single Tweet, with a summary of a blog post running on your own domain? Wouldn't that make you even more internet famous?

All people will do is switch over to Medium.

Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

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Post by yawaworht1978 »

csee wrote: post #30
echelon wrote: post #5

When can we send the leadership to federal prison instead of slapping them on the wrist with paltry fines? This has been used to inflate and extort advertising dollars. It has utterly trashed the web, gutted Mozilla, created a corporate tech monoculture controlled by platform giants, and led our social media engagement crisis. Break up these companies and send the leaders that approved of this to jail.

Yep, jail sentences. Fines are good but don't work that well, even if they're large, because of agency conflict of interest. It's mostly the shareholders who are paying the price. The execs already saw their call option paid off with their 10 years of comp while they were running this scam (among others).

I agree, even a hefty personal financial fine which pushes people to the verge of bankruptcy will not impress these people. They will get a new high paying job eventually. The only adequate punishment is a long prison sentence and it would deter other people from doing the same. Btw, also send the "reports" IE management who enforces the project straight to prison with the bosses.

Sounds radical, maybe, but all the other laissez-faire and self regulation approaches have not worked.

A prison sentence also means not employable in the same salary segment ever again.

These people hide behind large legal teams and always remind everyone about their large responsibilities. But when it comes to be responsible and liable to bad things, nothing much happens.

Just prison, not like in china, where some executives have simply been executed.

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