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Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker

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Re: Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker

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Post by yyyk »

blep-arsh wrote: post #220
gavinray wrote: post #61

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> "which to this day still doesn't provide a proper experience to anyone that cares about graphics programming and usable UI/UX tooling." Genuinely curious what doesn't work in IE Ubuntu 21.04 for you? Not one of those raving Linux zealots (don't really care that much about privacy), I've just had positive experiences on Linux -- not using it masochistically for ethical reasons, but because it worked very well for me…

I'm not the person you were replying to, but here's the straw that broke this multilingual camel's back: unless Gnome is running under Wayland, switching the keyboard layout steals the input focus away from the foreground window briefly, causing focus-loss event handlers to fire. This might seem an easily fixable minor issue but it's actually a decade-old hairball which significantly harms the experience and can't be…

I don't recall this ever happening to me in KDE under X, at least not in a way I've noticed.

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Post by nix23 »

orionblastar wrote: post #88
nix23 wrote: post #42

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Yeah funny times we life in, from Oracle you get a free enterprise linux, from Microsoft a opensoured MSDOS 1.0 ;) Edit: Correction, MSDOS 1.25 and 2.0 was released too

Microsoft released their own Linux: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-released-cbl-mar... As far as opensource DOS, nothing beats FreeDOS: https://www.freedos.org/

>>CBL-Mariner is an internal Linux distribution for Microsoft’s cloud infrastructure and edge products and services.

Oh yes please...i want that universal Linux Distribution ;)

>nothing beats FreeDOS

Dosbox and dosbox-x beat FreeDOS anyday.

Re: Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker

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Post by pabs3 »

eps wrote: post #25

In related news - ever wondered why Windows 11 can't be installed on "older computers"? You know, the ones that don't have a TPM chip? Now you know. Windows 11 completes the lock-up of the OS. That's why Windows 11 exists in the first place. All other changes are secondary. Microsoft knows they would've not been able to pull shit like this as a Windows 10 update, so they were effectively forced to do a version increa…

Someone recently got Windows 11 installed and working on a Pentium 4, so it doesn't seem that the restrictions are hard to bypass.

Re: Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker

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Post by ZekeSulastin »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #253

Are there TPMs where the user has more control and can configure w/ a root password to control keys? I like the idea of a secure tamper resistant security device but I don't like that the owner of the PC does not retain absolute control over this device.

Yes - the TPM isn’t a Windows-only thing. For example: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Trusted_Platform_Module

Re: Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker

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Post by blame-troi »

eps wrote: post #25

In related news - ever wondered why Windows 11 can't be installed on "older computers"? You know, the ones that don't have a TPM chip? Now you know. Windows 11 completes the lock-up of the OS. That's why Windows 11 exists in the first place. All other changes are secondary. Microsoft knows they would've not been able to pull shit like this as a Windows 10 update, so they were effectively forced to do a version increa…

Back to the Mac for me. Yeah, they have the walled garden problem too, but *nix environment for my development hobby is better there than I have on Windows 10. I’m not willing to go all the way to Linux for my main system since my wife has to be able to use it.

Numerically developer desktops aren’t significant, but mindshare is.

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Post by Oddskar »

kuschkufan wrote: post #210
Oddskar wrote: post #58

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It's honestly weird to see "Telemetry" labeled as "Spyware" by a technical people that, quite frankly, should know better. Spyware is NOT the same as gathering Telemetry data. You can also just turn off Telemetry in VSCode in the settings. I think a vast majority of people on HN gather data on customer usage of the products that they build. Because it ultimately makes us able to tailor the products better for our cus…

What did you expect? Microsoft labeling their data collection actions as "spyware" themselves? "Spyware" is a term used by people who oppose data collection, they didn't ask for. "Telemetry" is an euphemism by the ones that build this data collection into their apps.

I expect professionals to be able to distinguish between the two instead of being suckered into some sort of hive-mind thinking of "all data gathering bad hurr durr".

I'm absolutely all for privacy and limiting unnecessary gathering of data. But there's nuances to this discussion and labeling everything that has any amount of telemetry as "Spyware" does not do anyone any good.

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Post by lupire »

heavyset_go wrote: post #68
eps wrote: post #25

In related news - ever wondered why Windows 11 can't be installed on "older computers"? You know, the ones that don't have a TPM chip? Now you know. Windows 11 completes the lock-up of the OS. That's why Windows 11 exists in the first place. All other changes are secondary. Microsoft knows they would've not been able to pull shit like this as a Windows 10 update, so they were effectively forced to do a version increa…

> ever wondered why Windows 11 can't be installed on "older computers"? You know, the ones that don't have a TPM chip? > Now you know. Windows 11 completes the lock-up of the OS. Stallman[1] and others[2] talked about exactly this 15+ years ago. [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html [2] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

35 years ago.

Re: Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker

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Post by no_time »

FDSGSG wrote: post #144
no_time wrote: post #136

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The water is getting so hot the frog is having problems breathing from all the steam. "Crazy conspiracy!" He yells between two heavy gasps for air.

Oh piss off, nonsense like this is why we still don't have any Linux distros shipping reasonable FDE implementations. I sure hate to be able to kind of trust my computer http://0pointer.net/blog/authenticated-boot-and-disk-encrypt...

I like how the author acknowledges that some people claim that TPMs are evil but doesn't actually refute it.

As long as I can't extract the Endorsement Keys from a TPM I legally own you are not convincing me otherwise.

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Post by imchillyb »

matthewfcarlson wrote: post #215
EvanAnderson wrote: post #209

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To give an example harm caused by the TPM / disk encryption feature in the consumer space: A recently-deceased friend's wife contacted me about getting personal data off from her late husband's computers. I ended up being able to get nothing for her. My friend, no doubt influenced by dementia and paranoia he was feeling, changed the passwords, made no note of them, and subsequently died. The computers in question run…

If you can log into his microsoft account on the internet, you can recover the bitlocker key from there if his account on his machine was a microsoft one

> (The Windows accounts on these machines are local accounts so the Bitlocker recovery keys weren't saved on Microsoft's servers either.)

Reading the comments, before posting, helps.

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Post by IvanAchlaqullah »

saganus wrote: post #255
matheusmoreira wrote: post #240

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In a future where laws mandate signed software, the only way out is to somehow make our own hardware. We'll never be truly free unless we can manufacture free computers at home just like we can write free software at home. There is no software freedom if the processor refuses to run our code. Right now the chip fabs require billions of dollars in investments in order to make our processors. They are single points of…

But even if you can somehow make your own hardware, how long until governments start requiring interaction with certain services (health, banking, taxes, etc) be signed by an _approved_ OS/processor combo? Imagine tax software (comercial or gov provided) refusing to work unless you use an OS with TPM support for "security reasons". Or even worse, what would happen if gov regulations started requiring ISPs to stop wor…

> Imagine tax software (comercial or gov provided) refusing to work unless you use an OS with TPM support for "security reasons".

> I don't think this will happen any time soon (hopefully) but I can see how even making your own hardware might no be enough.

This already happened in Android, at least where I lives (Indonesia). Most of Banks, Government Services, and freaking McDonald's apps will refuse to run if your phone are rooted "for security reason".

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