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Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
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Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#62It takes two things for programs like "Jedi Blue" to happen. First, you need sociopaths in leadership positions who champion this 'great idea' they've figured out. These people often rise up in large companies because they are willing to do this sort of thing without any remorse. But second, you need developers to build it. A large number of them, usually, for a big project like this. Dozens of people like us knew th…
If no one wrote DRM software we wouldn't have DRM.
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#63What can we as people in top 1% with 1) information about big tech abuses 2) skills to fix this do? Individually we can use browsers like firefox or brave and probably donate time or money to them, but I think it's not enough. I think we would need something like a movement against those abuses, but probably the biggest win would be a business model that could win with them in the free market. Is this possible? Has a…
I tell everyone about Firefox and uBlock Origin. Blocking YouTube ads is enough of an argument to convince anyone to at least try it out. I've never seen someone who didn't love the ad-free web experience. It's actually safe to just install this software on random computers: people's quality of life will be invisibly yet thoroughly improved, they will notice that things are just better even if they can't explain why. They'll be a lot safer from malware too.
The objective is to reduce the return on investment of advertisers as much as possible. This will only happen in significant enough numbers once a significant portion of the population is blocking ads. It's our moral imperative to spread ad blocking technology far and wide.
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#64Hello advertisers. You are being manipulated and abused just like the consumers you are targeting. There is very little evidence to show that invasive digital advertising is actually effective. When was the last time you clicked on one of these ads and actually made a purchase? Bad for consumers and bad for advertisers. Why continue with this opaque, profit sucking charade that mainly enriches those selling the ads?
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Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
> When was the last time you clicked on one of these ads and actually made a purchase? Also how often are the metrics inflated by people who were going to purchase anyway? I was booking a holiday yesterday and knew the company I wanted to book from - I typed in their name and clicked on the top result as that was the company I wanted. When I clicked back I noticed that they had the top two results - the first was an…
I read a lot of companies buy advertising specifically for their own name, because if they don't, a competitor will, and will appear first when someone googles the company name.
There was a freakanomics podcast 2-part episode on advertising which discussed this, and many other things.
At least in one case (eBay?) they discovered this kind of brand advertising had essentially zero effect. Turns out if people search for eBay, they are going to click the result for eBay, whether it is first or not.
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#66Can we finally get rid of AMP as part of all of this?
Been using duckduckgo for the past year and AMP doesn’t exist for me.
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#67> Re: forced Chrome logins. Don't need cookies if you own the browser! ( https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/145209451374118912... ) The swindle with FLOC was pretty obviously tied in this, but people still went in circles discussing whether it's private or not, and downvoting those who said FLOC is a trap. Let's consult the plan, nothing is even secret about this: - Google disables third-party cookies, crippli…
Woah, so if a user is logged into chrome, Google has permission / is able to track all web activity for that user?
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#68Let's not blame a whole company for what some small part of it did. Google does a lot of good in this world. They were the first "ethical" tech company, the first tech company with "hacker values" at heart. "do no evil" is still a core value there.
No, google is not what it started off as. They dropped the do no evil moto long time ago
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#69Those are claims of an attorney general, right. Not something swore by oath from Google/Facebook. Claims from AGs strictly from conservative states.
Your insinuation that this is politically motivated seems plausible, but even so that doesn't mean the assertions are wrong.
Sometimes when you go on a fishing expedition you actually reel in a big one.
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#70Hello advertisers. You are being manipulated and abused just like the consumers you are targeting. There is very little evidence to show that invasive digital advertising is actually effective. When was the last time you clicked on one of these ads and actually made a purchase? Bad for consumers and bad for advertisers. Why continue with this opaque, profit sucking charade that mainly enriches those selling the ads?
my fiance has bought several things that she saw constantly on instagram ads