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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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> Huge swaths of people from from highly diverse backgrounds are unifing against what they see as poor leadership. The swathes are huge! The hugest and huge in... in diversity too! You know, when it comes to swathes, my swathes - you see, the thing is that I... I understand the big heart you need to be part of a swathe. And I'm part of this heart. This heart... this heart is me, really. I came up with it and when I d…

> And I looked out across all these smiling, white faces and said, you better believe it. We are the swathiest! You know the artist in question, Bryson Gray, is a black man? PS. You murdered my usage of the word swath. Congratulations?

So is most of his audience. No wait, they're white.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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There's no such thing as hate speech, only free speech and speech you like or don't like.

There’s literally laws defining hate speech.

In the US? Go ahead, list them?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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For those who think this isn’t political, check out what they posted on the POTUS Twitter the day before https://twitter.com/potus/status/1451544259992203266 The goal of this is to reclaim “let’s go Brandon” and it’s obvious. EDIT: for those who don’t know what “Let’s go Brandon” means, a child comment linked to a 40 second video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ8asiDn2_A&feature=youtu.be For those who don’t watch or…

When Google/YouTube/Twitter/Reddit and the rest undertake censorship that is clearly political, it should be treated as an in-kind political contribution. I don’t see why these actions are exempt from laws around campaign financing and election controls.

Leaving that aside this is yet another clear example of the power big tech wields over society and how they will abuse it due to their internal biases. We need renewed antitrust legislation (+ enforcement) to break up these companies, regulation to treat social media/Internet infrastructure as common carriers/public utilities, and the inclusion of political identity as a protected class under anti-discrimination laws.

We also shouldn’t exempt private organizations from upholding core American values like free speech. The largest platforms are as powerful as the government, and given they are under threat of legislative action on various issues and the current administration admitted to being in contact with tech companies regarding “problematic” content, it is also clear that an abusive party or administration can essentially outsource government-driven censorship to overly powerful private entities.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Does stories about Joe Biden's son relate to Joe Biden? Are you shitting us? Stories about Trumps children trend for weeks if there's anything negative... they don't get suppressed, questioned or challenged. Hunter is accused of being a Crack Addict, a pedophile, selling influence, etc... each enough to sit in the media for weeks and it's all swept under the rug. Trump supposedly says shithole and it's a national eme…

> Trump supposedly says shithole and it's a national emergency... Biden supposedly gets a cut from his son's business dealings in China/Russia/etc and it's nothing. The WSJ investigated that story at the time and said that there wasn't sufficient evidence. If you have issues, you should blame the WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partn... Note the following quote "corporate records reviewed…

"There wasn't sufficient evidence"

likewise, the laptop story was stopped because "its russian disinformation" even though 1) it never was and 2) those reasons never stop bad stories about Trump and family.

The main point of my post is that rumors sit in the new for months on Trump & crew... but "Journalists" suddenly care about "evidence" when it comes to Biden and Democrats?

"Media" is suppressing bad "rumors" about Biden and running rumors about Trump without issue. THAT is the issue and if you don't see the hypocrisy then you're part of the problem.

And right leaning?

Center: https://www.allsides.com/news-source/wall-street-journal-med...

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science. If someone went on YouTube to articulate the current scientific consensus of Ivermectin, which is that "There is no evidence to support it as a therapy for COVID, but that there are currently studies in progress which could yield important information, and in the meantime, people should definitely not be taking it as it can be dangerous unless administ…

> The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science. CDC: Masks should be worn by children aged 2 and up: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-... WHO: In general, children aged 5 years and under should not be required to wear masks: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-children-and-ma... ECDC: In primary schools, the use of face masks is recommended for teachers and othe…

You're having difficulty with reading comprehension it seems, as that is not the manner in which I applied the term 'consistent'.

WHO and CDC act in generally accordance with what we know i.e. 'consistent with the science'.

The science itself is of course fuzzy, moreover, your example ignores the fact that in different conditions (i.e. cultures, relative access to healthcare, % vaccinated), public policy is going to be different even if the science itself were clear.

So in varying conditions, it's reasonable that there's going to be varying policy implementations. Those implementations are not 'inconsistent' with the science, even if they are 'inconsistent' with one another.

This is not hard to understand, so it begs the question, what kind of person would make the conclusion:

"Different places have different public health policies, therefore these groups must be acting unscientifically"

We generally know what's going on, and have a good idea of what we don't know - so most of this inanity boils down to psychology, self awareness, antagonism, magical thinking etc.. The answer to our problems lies more in understanding why people believe 'QAnon' conspiracy theories than it does anything else.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science. If someone went on YouTube to articulate the current scientific consensus of Ivermectin, which is that "There is no evidence to support it as a therapy for COVID, but that there are currently studies in progress which could yield important information, and in the meantime, people should definitely not be taking it as it can be dangerous unless administ…

> The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science. Aren’t these the organizations that lied to the public in March 2020, saying masks were not effective? They later justified their deception, at the cost of how many lives (?), by suggesting it was to prevent a shortage of masks for medical personnel. These organizations are not promoting the science to shape policy, they’re promoting policy with filt…

They didn't lie, they stated a policy valid for one context.

When the context shifted, they changed policy.

Public Health Policy is based on Science, but it's not the same as Science.

It's a strategy, a general policy and set of communication principles, based on facts, designed to get a large variety of people moving towards better health outcomes.

Some of those facts are not pretty, much of it is too complicated for public consumption, and necessarily not going to be directly part of the communication.

Obviously, in the interest of transparency, those facts and other bits of information (such as study results) are definitely publicly available to anyone who can Google - but what you're going to hear from Fauci, CNN, the 'papers of record' is the basis of a Public Policy.

If everyone acted conscientiously, in accordance with CDC guidelines, even while remaining vigilant to the extent they choose (i.e. verifying information as they so chose), this pandemic might very well have been already over.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#647

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Does stories about Joe Biden's son relate to Joe Biden? Are you shitting us? Stories about Trumps children trend for weeks if there's anything negative... they don't get suppressed, questioned or challenged. Hunter is accused of being a Crack Addict, a pedophile, selling influence, etc... each enough to sit in the media for weeks and it's all swept under the rug. Trump supposedly says shithole and it's a national eme…

> Trump supposedly says shithole and it's a national emergency... Biden supposedly gets a cut from his son's business dealings in China/Russia/etc and it's nothing. The WSJ investigated that story at the time and said that there wasn't sufficient evidence. If you have issues, you should blame the WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partn... Note the following quote "corporate records reviewed…

The number reported since mid-2020 has been a 10% cut to Joe Biden from the CCP, Ukraine, Russia and Syria payments. Note that Hunter has no business qualifications to even get a meeting with those governments.

"there wasn't sufficient evidence", "mostly peaceful protests", "Hunter's art sales are to anonymous buyers", etc.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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> The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science. Aren’t these the organizations that lied to the public in March 2020, saying masks were not effective? They later justified their deception, at the cost of how many lives (?), by suggesting it was to prevent a shortage of masks for medical personnel. These organizations are not promoting the science to shape policy, they’re promoting policy with filt…

> Aren’t these the organizations that lied to the public in March 2020, saying masks were not effective? A simpler explanation, that is consistent with data, is that community masking was never very effective, and that the current mask guidelines are 100% about politics and signaling.

The notion that 7 Billion people in the world are living under a 'Mask Policy' which have no material value, but exists only for the purposes of 'signalling' is conspiratorial nonsense.

At the start of the pandemic, the efficacy of masks in the commons was still debatable, more so than is now.

Public Health Policy issues around getting 100's of millions of Westerners, not acclimated to wearing masks (as they are in some Asian countries), was a daunting concern, as we can see with all the anti-mask idiots even to this day.

N95s in particular were acutely necessary in Healthcare settings and the supply chains from China towards the start of the pandemic in the US were not quite ramped-up, and were just becoming secure by the time the CDC switched to a pro-mask footing. Otherwise, any call by the CDC for 350M Americans to 'wear masks' would have likely overran the Healthcare supply chain.

As the availability of PPE to Healthcare became secure, as Asian health officials urged Westerners to adopt mask policies, as we understand a bit more about masks, the policy shifted towards mask wearing.

Obviously, masks are a marginal tactic in the fight against COVID, but there is a systematic benefit, especially over 350M people million people, wearing them when they are interacting wit others. If there is ambiguity in their efficacy, it's rational to err on the side of caution, not the other way. Because we are 'going with the policy' then it has to be supported and enforced, like anything else.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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All news is manipulation. The only difference is how you are being manipulated and by whom.

That's such a nihilistic false equivalence. Get a subscription to The Economist - their business model disincentivizes manipulation

Go read Manufacturing Consent.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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> Trump supposedly says shithole and it's a national emergency... Biden supposedly gets a cut from his son's business dealings in China/Russia/etc and it's nothing. The WSJ investigated that story at the time and said that there wasn't sufficient evidence. If you have issues, you should blame the WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partn... Note the following quote "corporate records reviewed…

"There wasn't sufficient evidence" likewise, the laptop story was stopped because "its russian disinformation" even though 1) it never was and 2) those reasons never stop bad stories about Trump and family. The main point of my post is that rumors sit in the new for months on Trump & crew... but "Journalists" suddenly care about "evidence" when it comes to Biden and Democrats? "Media" is suppressing bad "rumors" abou…

> rumors sit in the new for months on Trump

It's much worse than that.

Virtually all news stories in 2020/early 2021 about Trump have been retracted by cnn.com since then.

Almost all sound bytes from the White House and Squad today are the opposite of what they said pre-election, especially about corona - they said they would refuse a vaccine developed under the Trump administration, and that vaccine mandates were not going to happen.

The most striking is that "Trump's Muslim travel ban list" was originally drawn up by the previous Obama administration. (The list was created because there's several countries that have disorganized passport control, so ICE can't verify any of those documents when required, which means they don't know who is trying to enter the US, when that mattered. With Open Borders, those people can now just walk across the Mexico border.)

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