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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by henrikschroder »

zionic wrote: post #410
jollybean wrote: post #359

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The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science. If someone went on YouTube to articulate the current scientific consensus of Ivermectin, which is that "There is no evidence to support it as a therapy for COVID, but that there are currently studies in progress which could yield important information, and in the meantime, people should definitely not be taking it as it can be dangerous unless administ…

> The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science. Aren’t these the organizations that lied to the public in March 2020, saying masks were not effective? They later justified their deception, at the cost of how many lives (?), by suggesting it was to prevent a shortage of masks for medical personnel. These organizations are not promoting the science to shape policy, they’re promoting policy with filt…

> Aren’t these the organizations that lied to the public in March 2020, saying masks were not effective?

A simpler explanation, that is consistent with data, is that community masking was never very effective, and that the current mask guidelines are 100% about politics and signaling.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by atleta »

ggdG wrote: post #303
city41 wrote: post #237

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> The vaccination has been thoroughly shown to work How has this been shown? Countries with a high vaccination rate don't have a lower infection rate than other countries: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7 And after 3 months of being fully vaccinated, whatever level of immunity you had is completely gone by then: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y > Unfortunately, the vaccin…

> The only thing that remains, is some protection against symptomatic disease.

And sever disease needing hospitalization and death. And these indeed the things we want to avoid. Both as individuals and as a society. Because if/when hospitals fill up then you have a trouble. This is what people don't get. (They also don't get that they could end up in a hospital or a morgue with some probability, so I don't even mention that.)

One of my friend's father has been waiting for an operation for half a year here (in Hungary). They couldn't do it in the spring because the hospitals were overcrowded with covid patients. Then they couldn't do it because the waiting lists grew during that period. Then somehow he got in about a week ago with the help of a former high ranking official (yeah, gotta love Eastern Europe) just to be sent home the next morning, because there weren't enough free beds in the ICU any more. Yes, anecdotal, but this is the thing we try to avoid.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by JPKab »

enkid wrote: post #448
chroem- wrote: post #219

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Are you implying that the lyric is wrong and the pandemic is over?

The lyrics don't say the vaccine would stop the pandemic, it says it would stop the spread, which it does. You are changing the wording to make it seem more reasonable than it is.

Fully vaccinated people are less likely to contract or spread the virus. There's no question about this currently with the present strains. However they do not at all halt the spread of the virus. Israel is a good example of this.

As I have said elsewhere in this thread I don't agree with the lyrics in that video. I find the video itself to be childish and silly but that would basically be 99% of rap and pop music in general.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by Cycl0ps »

pauldenton wrote: post #423
Cycl0ps wrote: post #413

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They're more than allowed to say it, YouTube is equally allowed to not repeat it.

And Congress is allowed to strip 230 protection from YouTube and any other platform that applies their rules selectively.

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of—

(A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by JPKab »

kuroguro wrote: post #18
0des wrote: post #3

Were there other lyrics besides "Let's Go Brandon"? If those contained disinfo, perhaps that is why.

> Pandemic ain't real, they just planned it probably that part?

I can probably get on Google and find a few dozen hip hop songs where the artists claim that the US government invented the AIDS virus to kill Black people.

Let's not pretend that this is about lyrics that promote misinformation and instead admit that this is about lyrics which go against the current gated institutional narrative.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by loonster »

u801e wrote: post #368
exporectomy wrote: post #304

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Italy is at 80% and they still see the need to ban unvaccinated people from places. New Zealand is planning to ban unvaccinated people form places after we reach 90% of over-12-year-olds. So even with a massive 80% vaccinated, the vaccine doesn't stop the spread. Maybe it would at 90%? 95%? Who knows. In New Zealand, the unvaccinated are largely the indigenous Maori, not stereotypical anti-vaxxers.

Herd immunity from measles requires at least 95% of the population vaccinated. For polio, it's 80%.

Herd immunity only requires a certain percentage of the population to be immune. It doesn't matter how the immunity is acquired.

Given enough time, all populations will eventually attain herd immunity.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by lettergram »

For those who think this isn’t political, check out what they posted on the POTUS Twitter the day before

https://twitter.com/potus/status/1451544259992203266

The goal of this is to reclaim “let’s go Brandon” and it’s obvious.

EDIT: for those who don’t know what “Let’s go Brandon” means, a child comment linked to a 40 second video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ8asiDn2_A&feature=youtu.be

For those who don’t watch or attend sport events — this happens at many of the events lately.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by barnesto »

crazy_horse wrote: post #457
bko wrote: post #441

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To be clear, I don't know about this case in particular, but the current administration has admitted to be in direct contact with social media platforms to tag "problematic" posts. And they may not even need to because the implicit threat is there. I used to be part of the "its a private platform" group, but I asked myself the question, what would actual government censorship look like. And I couldn't think of an ans…

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Trump was removed from all forms of social media, but tell us how you hate conservatives and their empty rhetoric. Guess that also means that the Trump administration was in close contact with the tech companies to ensure they banned him.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by bko »

crazy_horse wrote: post #457
bko wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be clear, I don't know about this case in particular, but the current administration has admitted to be in direct contact with social media platforms to tag "problematic" posts. And they may not even need to because the implicit threat is there. I used to be part of the "its a private platform" group, but I asked myself the question, what would actual government censorship look like. And I couldn't think of an ans…

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> The First Amendment has been interpreted by the Court as applying to the entire federal government even though it is only expressly applicable to Congress. Furthermore, the Court has interpreted the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments. [0]

On your other point, I don't see how "they've always done that" means its not a first amendment issue.

Finally, conspiracy theories are covered under freedom of speech. And freedom of speech is not "empty political rhetoric"

[0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/first_amendment

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